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- TheBlueOne0
"I've never seen any of this BS your talking sh-t about...go find me a pic and show me...still waiting on those pics???"
-cnaps1970See above asshat.
Now how about them pics of the African Americans protesting at a Bush event, or anything, with guns and "Kill Whitey" signs in the last 20 years? Or was your whole thing about "violence" the guy who's a reverend speaking from a pulpit in a church, because, man we know how dangerous that shit is, I mean, hell compared to guys carrying loaded AK-47's and "Kill Liberals" t-shirts and Confederate flags...wow, yeah, I guess you're the guy in the room that has his pulse on shit.
- ********0
Dude, you said protestors with Ak-47s using the N-word in reference to Obama!!!!
I'm not seeing the connection to being a racist because you are a dumb ass who brings a gun to a tea party rally!!!!!!
There is a world of difference from being a racist and just being a moron!
ok, capt. dooosher!!!!
since you are five years old, i will break it down for you..
show me a pic of a guy or girl with a Ak-47 calling obama a N-gger!!!!!
now that would be racist!!! what you are showing me is just not racist!!!- I'm sorry, I can't hear you above the roar of your stupid.TheBlueOne
- Pictures of Black people with guns at political protest please.TheBlueOne
- *crickets*TheBlueOne
- you idiot the guy is black!********
- TheBlueOne0
Anyway, enough with this political bullshit. Some serious stuff is going down in Iran. The bazaar merchants are going on strike:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr…
In the past two major upheavals in Iranian society it's when the merchants of the Bazaar withdrew their support of the government that things got dicey.
This is going to get interesting fairly quickly.
Now, but let's not discuss this. Let's post pictures of Fox News screen grabs and call Obama Hitler or something...
- his policies are the EXACT same. Are you uneducated or a coward?********
- And then your dumb ass links to a government funded broadcast site. Unbelievable.********
- his policies are the EXACT same. Are you uneducated or a coward?
- drgz0
Everything will happen like foretold
The illusions are melting away like ice
Die America, die!
- ********0
here is the original video before MSNBC altered and cropped the image.
- O wait a minute. the guy that was carrying the AR 15 was black? what. weird.********
- he's a fucking plant ... you fucking tardRamanisky2
- Maybe not, just a misguided person like the rest of them.DrBombay
- Obama isn't trying to take anyone's guns away. SO it is just for intimidation.DrBombay
- o he is a plant. Nice excuse you faggy commi's.********
- O wait a minute. the guy that was carrying the AR 15 was black? what. weird.
- PonyBoy0
meanwhile... the whitehouse now finds Al Qaeda to be racist...
... race wars everywhere... good times!!
The Too Simple Side of Race
http://www.redstate.com/erick/20…President Obama, White House: Al Qaeda Is Racist
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politic…Obama steps up rhetoric against al-Qaeda and al-Shabab
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-…
- ********0
"I guarantee you if we could take Barack Obama back to the voting booth, there would be a hell of a lot more people returning Obama than have returned iPhones."
Rush
- DrBombay0
you listen to rush limbaugh...
- ********0
you're a communist....
- ^********
- Call me what you like, from your bunker, you fucking freak.DrBombay
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- ukit0
The modern conservative party is a bunch of incompetent fools, a lot like the ones in this thread.
Without Reagan and Bush's irresponsible big government spending we wouldn't even have a deficit problem.
- your problem is jumping to conculsions based on tiny graphs that dont reflect the many variables associated with change.********
- change. how do wars figure in this, or population booms with established healthcare from FDR?********
- does this accurately represent any and all socio economic events or any play on international scene?********
- You're a fucking idiotukit
- your problem is jumping to conculsions based on tiny graphs that dont reflect the many variables associated with change.
- ukit0
How dumb would you have to be to look at that chart, and say, I want less government, less spending, to cut the deficit, SO LET'S ELECT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CREATED IT.
hahaha
- only a small percentage of people dislikes wealth distribution so its a good tool to win elections to promote it and grow gov********
- grow the governments size, to launder the wealth distribution and make it seem legit********
- and thats why both parties are hypocrits generally speaking. because they need to grow to win********
- but its common sense that less gov employees equal less gov debt********
- the people were brainwashed through TV, cell phones and gadgets.********
- People like deathboy substitute ideology for factsukit
- Notice that there was no real rebuttal there, just desperate clinging to the pin-headed worldview you've been sold by the rightukit
- the American right-wingukit
- only a small percentage of people dislikes wealth distribution so its a good tool to win elections to promote it and grow gov
- DrBombay0
Greenspan Says Congress Should Let Bush Era Tax Cuts Expire
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20…This isn't the specter of doom of the "re-distribution of wealth" that some people paint it as. It just rolls things back to 2001 before Bush did a very dangerous thing and borrowed tons of money without any way of paying it back, sending the value of the dollar down the toilet. Letting these tax cuts expire would bring in 650 billion dollars a year in revenue.
And before any one of you protest this, it will not effect any of your broke asses one bit.
- how many of our broke asses will be out of jobs with this plan?********
- Stop trying to scare people, you are a fucking serf. Stop sucking rich dick.DrBombay
- Prove that it will kill jobs.DrBombay
- Stats, figures, actual evidence of it. Not your asshole opinion.DrBombay
- well i know that 650 billion isnt money thats simply not in play and just sitting outside of the economy.********
- deathboy, these guys are obamatrons. It's to late for them. They will be a slave to the black man.********
- You know whats funnier? Blacks are going to be a slave to a black man LOL********
- if its savings, or investments and gets pulled what will happen, if a company has a profit margin to meet that means cutbacks...********
- really what makes you beleive 650 billion can be had with 0 consequences********
- Things were fine when the tax rate was higher. You are gullible as fuck.DrBombay
- "Stats, figures, actual evidence of it"
No? STFU then.DrBombay - its just common sense, cant have your cake and eat it too. your argument should be the 650b could go towards more government jobs. but then you still have debt and more overhead********
- gov jobs. but then you still have debt and increase overhead.********
- We lived in dark times before George Bush then apparently.DrBombay
- way before bush. i wouldnt have agreed with the tax cuts then, but now an economy has adjusted to them********
- and your gonna have to break some eggs if you want to go back.********
- i dont like politics being used to alter states of economy for elections.********
- This was a key campaign issue for all of the democrats 3 years ago, it isn't just because of the election.DrBombay
- Look at the debt this country had before Obama became president. It wouldn't be nearly that bad with all of that revenue coming in for 7 years.DrBombay
- revenue coming in for 7 years.DrBombay
- And by your logic the 2000's should have been a boom time and it wasn't. Please do not invoke 9/11.DrBombay
- how bout medicare. repubs have tax cuts dems have handouts both are wrong in my book. its not there place********
- just think about the logic behind fdr's economic bill of rights and you will find a lot of error. since there is none********
- and i dont support war and or supporting a facist state with corp tax deals and lawful help********
- im just a man who wants right and right isnt very politically cool these days. but thats politics a war for the same both sides screwed********
- sides get screwed unless you play the political game********
- You live in fantasy land.DrBombay
- how many of our broke asses will be out of jobs with this plan?
- ********0
People of QBN. We living in the most important time in history.
You either stand with a Prison Planet or you stand with Free People.
You either say yes I will live in bondage of complete govt control or I will do as i please.
There is a reason why all of this criminal corruption is on the high speed train to be accomplished before 2012 because of this.
You guys have seen nothing yet.
So while some of you support corruption and criminal activity and even murder among whites the other 80% are preparing for miracles.
- Fucking crackpot.DrBombay
- This is Obamas handler.********
- Did you tear out all of your fillings because you thought they were controlling your mind?DrBombay
- Its a CFR media you idiot.********
- you need to read and learn something bombay. You're so pathetic you can't even argue or present fact.********
- Until there is total equality we need a central government to promote equality and peace.74LEO
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- kona0
the only thing i want to know is, how will all of this affect the resale value of my obama posters?
- luckyorphan0
"but its common sense that less gov employees equal less gov debt" —deathboy
Aw see now you done it. I'd been pleasantly ignoring the Politics thread, waiting for a conversation to happen, and sure enough, I could rely on you, db, to at least put out a concept that required discussion. It's good to have you back in it, stirring it up.
Government debt only happens when its costs outweigh its revenues. A conservative/libertarian would probably argue that if you have less government, you'll have less debt. But the flip side of that argument is that if you raise taxes, you'll also eliminate the debt.
It's become abundantly clear that no one is willing to get rid of enough of their preferred areas of government to affect the budget significantly, and that the people more or less want most of the government that is in place. This is what happens with representative government—they elect people who make decisions, and then either keep them in or throw them out. But overall, the decisions made are done by those who have been empowered to make them. It's a mess, but it's what we got.
So, rather than suggest that the only way to lower debt would be to lay off more gov't workers and shrink gov't, a simple, valid argument could be made that the gov't should increase its revenue through higher taxes. For some, it's clear that the wealthy in our nation benefit far more than their contributions to the society. Therefore, raising their tax burden should at least be considered, if not implemented. After all, the wealthy used to be taxed at 70% of their income
There is no good reason why Warren Buffet should be taxed over 50% less than his secretary.
There is no good reason why earned income should be taxed more than interest income.
There is no good reason why people of immense wealth due to no work of their own should continue to be taxed at a very low rate (see "Born Rich", directed by Johnson & Johnson heir Jamie Johnson).
The society has provided a system in which they have become wealthy. For some, it is due to their ingenuity. But the opportunity that was provided to them in which they could capitalize on their abilities was provided by the society in the first place, and they should forever be obliged to pay a large portion of their wealth back into the society on an annual basis as a way of showing gratitude.
Of course, that's the left-leaning approach to lowering the gov't debt. Tax the rich. But a sensible approach would be to BOTH raise taxes and make gov't as efficient as possible, until you find a good balance, and can balance the budget. The society should pay for the gov't it wants, but it should effectively moderate its needs and desires at the same time.
In the end, you have to admit that the GOP are never interested in balanced budgets unless a Democrat is in the white house. The record is clear on that.
- got find a balance for sure. wotn happen when voters respond only to party freebies********
- and actually doesn't the top10% pay like 85-90% of all taxes. but its in their interest to protect the lower class********
- but only to an extent. thats doesnt mean they can be bled dry. has to keep a symbiotic relationship going were both gain********
- True on all counts, but it's fair to suggest that the wealthy should take care of the society.luckyorphan
- got find a balance for sure. wotn happen when voters respond only to party freebies
- ********0
MWAAAHAHA - Obama defends healthcare as a TAX. LOL
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/1…
WASHINGTON — When Congress required most Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a penalty, Democrats denied that they were creating a new tax. But in court, the Obama administration and its allies now defend the requirement as an exercise of the government’s “power to lay and collect taxes.”
SUCK IT YOU SHEEP.
- Obama defends healthcare a new TAX on all americans lol********
- INBRED TEABAGGERS UNITE®utopian
- Obama defends healthcare a new TAX on all americans lol
- ********0
Obamas 'christianity' allows him to politically redistribute White America's wealth LOL
If you f6ckers can't read you might as well listen to their own words.
http://www.glennbeck.com/content…
PRESIDENT OBAMA: You can take your diploma, walk off this stage and chase only after the big house and the nice suits and the other things that our money culture says you should buy, you can choose to narrow your concerns and live life in a way that tries to keep your story separate from America's, but I hope you don't, not because you have an obligation to those who are less fortunate, although I believe you do have that obligation; not because you have a debt to all those who helped you get to where you are today, although I do believe you have that debt to pay. It's because you have an obligation to yourself. Because our individual salvation depends on collective salvation.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: And recognizing that my fate remain tied up with their fates, that my individual salvation is not going to come about without a collective salvation for the country.
