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- luckyorphan0
A little food for thought from Harvard professor Michael Sandel and his class:
This is from an outstanding series on PBS called "Justice Harvard". Enjoy.
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I posted this (Fing hilarious btw):
BonSeff replied with this:
that was when he was on the campaign trail dumbshit. you guys are batting a thousand on way back footage.I say this:
Who the F cares. It's still fing funny. And quit blaming shit on GWB then you french faggot.- Obama was, and IS a fucking dumbshit. I mean, for REAL.********
- fucking clueless homophobeBonSeff
- HAHHAA********
- Obama was, and IS a fucking dumbshit. I mean, for REAL.
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Oh Jesus, this one is even fing funnier:
- Somehow, I think this cat needs to compliment his rhetoric with better historical advisors.********
- The Kruschev/Kennedy remark is accurate actually. Both leaders sent letters to each other throughout the whole conflict.Mimio
- ....conflict.Mimio
- Ooh... such an Obama defender you are. Hahahaha!********
- Don't talk about history around SumWurk. He dropped out of high school so has no frame of reference.DrBombay
- Somehow, I think this cat needs to compliment his rhetoric with better historical advisors.
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even sumwork's mom hates him, if he has one
- lowimpakt0
palin to head tea party convention
- ukit0
Hey don't make fun of SomeWork. He was dropped on his head as an infant leading to an inability to process vowels correctly. If you meet him in real life he talks like Barney Frank, hence the angry obsession with gays.
- Better than when you're daddy shoved that qtr. broomstick up you ass.********
- The sodomy fascination is creepy.DrBombay
- Better than when you're daddy shoved that qtr. broomstick up you ass.
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Just reported that in his first year as President, Barry Obama has conducted 161 interviews. What a fucking jokester.
Ukit, that's SumWurk®, btw.
- who gives a shit how you spell your fake name, moran********
- it isn't fake. he has a website to go with it and everything.********
- who gives a shit how you spell your fake name, moran
- PonyBoy0
"Canadian premier seeks heart surgery in US"
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why would a Canadian leader ditch their awesome system to roll down here and utilize our shitty system?
- PonyBoy0
ANSWER ME!... I'VE SPOKEN... NOW ANSWER ME.
woops... sorry... was channeling dobs there a second - you okay on your end, dobs?
- You can buy yourself awesome care in the US. The problem is most people can't afford it.Mimio
- What we can afford through our over-priced insurance is second rate care.Mimio
- Or their insurance company screws them out of coverage.Mimio
- no, what we can afford is big-screen tvs, designer clothing and any other 'things' that are just things...sigg
- and no one wants to spend $ for good healthcare. look at auto insurance. how many people drive around with minimum coverage...sigg
- coverage? then they get into an accident and find out they aren't covered and its' someone else's fault.sigg
- i'm all for healthcare reform but put some blame and responsibility where it belongs.sigg
- ps. dobs is a douche.sigg
- Healthcare costs tons more in the US and you like it that way.DrBombay
- Sigg, we spend the most.Mimio
- Or your employer does.Mimio
- of of course i do. i also like pollution, killing babies and clubbing seals because i'm somesigg
- sort of stereotype to you because i don't think the fucked up way you do. fuck off dummy.sigg
- bombay not u mimio.sigg
- Get mad, sigg! RAAAAAWRRR!DrBombay
- PonyBoy0
Hey dobs... I graduated high school... and even college...
... do I deserve to be in this conversation?Yep... I'm bored and on your balls again. :)
- Wow you and Tommy sure do defend the trolls a lot.DrBombay
- or... maybe we just find it fun to fuck with you as you treat us just like the trolls. ;)PonyBoy
- That is what trolling is, you tit.DrBombay
- yet we're right back in the middle of the healthcare debate...
... that's some fine trolling by me, huh? :)PonyBoy
- Mimio0
For a laugh read :http://www.teapartynation.com/
- http://www.teapartyn…Mimio
- good grief the right is ridiculous at attempting clean design... no sense of organization eitherPonyBoy
- I guess rednecknation.com was already taken.Mimio
- ukit0
The opening-night speaker at first ever National Tea Party Convention ripped into President Obama, Sen. John McCain and “the cult of multiculturalism,” asserting that Obama was elected because “we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country.”
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PB, don't you have a heart condition or something, shouldn't you be on the right side of this health care thing?
- The Right side is usually the correct side.********
- I'm all for reform that will lower the cost and open the doors for everyone... just not interested in a gov. option... more interested...PonyBoy
- ... in tort reform... portability... blah blah... some old talking points - but they are how I feel. :)PonyBoy
- How are tort reform and portability going to lower costs exactly?DrBombay
- Also, what do you personally mean by tort reform? Caps on lawsuits against doctors or?DrBombay
- dr's pay high insurance premiums to protect them from heavy lawsuits... the cost trickles downPonyBoy
- and lawyers take a 1/3 of whatever they win for their clients - so they're obviously going to go all outPonyBoy
- there's gotta be something that can be done to reduce all the frivolous lawsuits - every city I've lived in here in the states...PonyBoy
- ... all have their late-night 'local lawyer' commercials (aka - ambulance chasers or med-malpractice fucks)PonyBoy
- Different states already have different laws about this. You want federal laws about it? Mr. Liberty?DrBombay
- Honestly it should be a state by state thing. I dont see it bringing down costs by much.DrBombay
- your selective reading in the past has lead you to think I want no laws and zero taxes - this is not how I think.PonyBoy
- Texas and Indiana both have more aggressive tort regs. Studies show their costs haven't really come down much.DrBombay
- Maybe a bit, granted but it isn't the magic bullet to reducing healthcare costs that it is touted as by conservatives.DrBombay
- well... i think we both agree then that the cost needs to come down - we just disagree on how to get therePonyBoy
- first things first... make it law that folks w/pre-existing conditions can acquire insurance etcPonyBoy
- Fragment the insurance monopoly. Insurance companies are the culprit.DrBombay
- i say that selfishly... i know... but I know i'm far from alone with this issuePonyBoy
- "Insurance companies are the culprit."
I'll give you that - but part of it is because they can sued so heavilyPonyBoy - heavilyPonyBoy
- sorry... can't type...
they - the insurance co's... get smacked w/heavy lawsuits themselvesPonyBoy - but yes - banking and insurance make far too much money for what they do - the money should goto the doctorsPonyBoy
- As long as insurance is a for profit business, our healthcare system is fucked.DrBombay
- reading more, it seems that 23 states already have pretty serious tort reform. So... not sure how much fat this actually trims.DrBombay
- trims off of costs.DrBombay
- it's pretty sickening that either the insurance company walks away w/bulky pockets - or the lawyers do... but the doc's and...PonyBoy
- ... patients look beat up when it's all donePonyBoy
- I have 2 friends that are doctors, they aren't hurting at all.DrBombay
- In rural areas where there are less doctors is where the people suffer most from tort law.DrBombay
- No doctor I know is hurting either... and rightly so... but they do pay massive cost in insurance etc... and that's passed to usPonyBoy
- personally - i think doctors should make more money :)PonyBoy
- All businesses carry an insurance burden, look at general contractors. Insurance is the gorilla in the room.DrBombay
- Any business or vocation you look at what groups always gets a cut? Insurance.DrBombay
- yep... and banks... for doing nothing more than shuffling paper around at the end of the day... no argument here, dobs.PonyBoy
- The republicans want nothing done to regulate them. Can you see why I have the opinion I do in this case?DrBombay
- I agree with you on that - but there's plenty of dems working their own deals in the background too...PonyBoy
- ... bureaucrats in general are to blame.PonyBoy
- Yes but it is a unified front on the right about any regulation on them.DrBombay
- Basically a unified front against the American people.DrBombay
- The Right side is usually the correct side.
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New Orleans just elected a Republican mayor and by a landslide. One more (R) is in, and ONE more (D) is out.
- Of course, the guy's sister is a Democrat in Congress. That must be an interesting Thanksgiving.luckyorphan
- joeth0
Our next president reading off her hand...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/st…
- ukit0
BWAHAHAHAHAHA I almost couldn't believe this was real, but it is
- She had to write "tax cuts" on her hand to remember it HAHAHAHAukit
- I mean...really?! 2012???luckyorphan
- She is a compete moron!DCDesigns