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    PB, don't you have a heart condition or something, shouldn't you be on the right side of this health care thing?

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    • The Right side is usually the correct side.
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    • I'm all for reform that will lower the cost and open the doors for everyone... just not interested in a gov. option... more interested...PonyBoy
    • ... in tort reform... portability... blah blah... some old talking points - but they are how I feel. :)PonyBoy
    • How are tort reform and portability going to lower costs exactly?DrBombay
    • Also, what do you personally mean by tort reform? Caps on lawsuits against doctors or?DrBombay
    • dr's pay high insurance premiums to protect them from heavy lawsuits... the cost trickles downPonyBoy
    • and lawyers take a 1/3 of whatever they win for their clients - so they're obviously going to go all outPonyBoy
    • there's gotta be something that can be done to reduce all the frivolous lawsuits - every city I've lived in here in the states...PonyBoy
    • ... all have their late-night 'local lawyer' commercials (aka - ambulance chasers or med-malpractice fucks)PonyBoy
    • Different states already have different laws about this. You want federal laws about it? Mr. Liberty?DrBombay
    • Honestly it should be a state by state thing. I dont see it bringing down costs by much.DrBombay
    • your selective reading in the past has lead you to think I want no laws and zero taxes - this is not how I think.PonyBoy
    • Texas and Indiana both have more aggressive tort regs. Studies show their costs haven't really come down much.DrBombay
    • Maybe a bit, granted but it isn't the magic bullet to reducing healthcare costs that it is touted as by conservatives.DrBombay
    • well... i think we both agree then that the cost needs to come down - we just disagree on how to get therePonyBoy
    • first things first... make it law that folks w/pre-existing conditions can acquire insurance etcPonyBoy
    • Fragment the insurance monopoly. Insurance companies are the culprit.DrBombay
    • i say that selfishly... i know... but I know i'm far from alone with this issuePonyBoy
    • "Insurance companies are the culprit."
      I'll give you that - but part of it is because they can sued so heavily      PonyBoy
    • heavilyPonyBoy
    • sorry... can't type...
      they - the insurance co's... get smacked w/heavy lawsuits themselves      PonyBoy
    • but yes - banking and insurance make far too much money for what they do - the money should goto the doctorsPonyBoy
    • As long as insurance is a for profit business, our healthcare system is fucked.DrBombay
    • reading more, it seems that 23 states already have pretty serious tort reform. So... not sure how much fat this actually trims.DrBombay
    • trims off of costs.DrBombay
    • it's pretty sickening that either the insurance company walks away w/bulky pockets - or the lawyers do... but the doc's and...PonyBoy
    • ... patients look beat up when it's all donePonyBoy
    • I have 2 friends that are doctors, they aren't hurting at all.DrBombay
    • In rural areas where there are less doctors is where the people suffer most from tort law.DrBombay
    • No doctor I know is hurting either... and rightly so... but they do pay massive cost in insurance etc... and that's passed to usPonyBoy
    • personally - i think doctors should make more money :)PonyBoy
    • All businesses carry an insurance burden, look at general contractors. Insurance is the gorilla in the room.DrBombay
    • Any business or vocation you look at what groups always gets a cut? Insurance.DrBombay
    • yep... and banks... for doing nothing more than shuffling paper around at the end of the day... no argument here, dobs.PonyBoy
    • The republicans want nothing done to regulate them. Can you see why I have the opinion I do in this case?DrBombay
    • I agree with you on that - but there's plenty of dems working their own deals in the background too...PonyBoy
    • ... bureaucrats in general are to blame.PonyBoy
    • Yes but it is a unified front on the right about any regulation on them.DrBombay
    • Basically a unified front against the American people.DrBombay
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