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- mwhitelaw0
Agreeing about the meddling in Iran. This won't be viewed favorably by the Arab world, I think we're making things worse.
- Who's meddling in Iran at the moment? Twitter?TheBlueOne
- TheBlueOne0
According to Rush Limbaugh, South Carolina's govenore had an affair BECAUSE of Obama. Yes. Seriously. Obama made this douchetard fly to Argentina to cheat on his wife.
"This Sanford business: I've got to tell you, one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind.... What he did defies logic.... He up and leaves for five days, doesn't leave anyone in charge of the state in case there's an emergency. This is almost like, 'I don't give a damn, the country's going to hell in a handbasket. I just want out of here.' He had just tried to fight the stimulus money coming to South Carolina. He didn't want any part of it. He lost the battle. He said, 'What the hell. I mean, I'm -- the federal government's taking over -- what the hell, I want to enjoy life.'...
I'm not [kidding]. My first thought was he said, 'To hell with this. The Democrats are destroying the country. We can't do anything to stop it. I gave everything I had to stop it here in South Carolina.' ... Folks, there are a lot of people looking at life and saying, 'screw it.' They're saying, 'screw it.' Before Obama takes away their money, before Obama takes away their house, or the economy takes away their house, there are people who are saying, "To hell with all this.... I'm just going to try to enjoy it as much as I can.'"
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/t…
I mean, you can't even make this shit up.
- Makes some sense though. More and more independents are wishing they didn't vote for Obama as an example.********
- You have to be F-in kidding me... That party has imploded on itself. A complete cartoon of itself.********
- Let's see some linkage there truthhurts...DrBombay
- "Makes some sense"? Dude, whatever you are smoking get me some.TheBlueOne
- Makes some sense though. More and more independents are wishing they didn't vote for Obama as an example.
- ********0
- soooooo, he smokes. Big deal. You really make me feel sorry for you sometimes.********
- He certainly blows smoke if you know what I mean.********
- soooooo, he smokes. Big deal. You really make me feel sorry for you sometimes.
- TheBlueOne0
Oh, meanwhile, the FBI has just arrested a rightwing nutjob for giving out Federal Judge home addresses, car registration information, etc on the internet and saying "We should kill them."
Yeah, wow, good thing that report about rightwing violence from the DHS got suppressed for you know, not being, you know, "based in reality". You know reality. Where Obama uses his magic negro fairy dust to make Republican Govenors have affairs with latin women in Argentina. That reality.
- linkage:
http://thinkprogress…TheBlueOne - Well, Janet Nepalatano's apology regarding the matter says it all.********
- Learn how to spell her name first, you fucking idiot.DrBombay
- Dr. Bobmay, you are truly vulgar. I feel sorry for you my friend.********
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- ukit0
And while you were paying attention to all that other stuff...
A cap and trade bill looks likely to pass the House tomorrow
http://www.politico.com/news/sto…
It is interesting that the House is much more genuinely liberal and progressive, whereas in the Senate, most of the people controlling the committees are bought off to an amazing degree.
- No, that's how it's supposed to work ukit vis-a-vis the House and the Senate.TheBlueOne
- I mean without the corruption hopefully....TheBlueOne
- I mean the House was meant to be responsive and the Senate more conservativeTheBlueOne
- tommyo0
^^ Wasn't Napolitano's statement only because of the Tea Parties? Or was that just a poor timing thing?
The thing I have a big problem with are these right wing 'news' outlets stoking the fire, pushing some notion that the sky is falling. What we have here is a Democrat president pushing a liberal agenda I don't personally agree with. But this game the social conservative media is playing is dangerous to say the least. What the hell do they expect the loose cannon mother fuckers to do when they constantly talk about this country going down in flames? A lot of these guys are patriotic to a fault and the scenario being framed is that the president is taking steps to undermine the US. So of course these dipshits think they need to resort to severe methods to 'save' their country. It's wrong but the outcome is completely understandable. These social conservatives need to pull back and find a new identity in a hurry.
- Yup.TheBlueOne
- I rmemeber reading that the report was actually being done before Bush was even out of office.DrBombay
- They don't fire all of the staff of an agency when an admin changes either.DrBombay
- So Rick you think the timing of it is just a coincidence? April 15th.. day of the parties. I highly doubt it.tommyo
- I'm sure it was, it's all politics no matter what side you lean towards.DrBombay
- Doesnt mean the report wouldn't have come out anyway. I don't think it means it is bullshit.DrBombay
- Never claimed it was.tommyo
- didn't claim you did.DrBombay
- I think anytime a democrat is elected, you have to worry about right wing extremists. Liberals dont really shoot people or blow shit up.DrBombay
- or blow shit up.DrBombay
- *WTF? Are you guys almost fucking civil in this note?TheBlueOne
- He's being reasonable. :)DrBombay
- No but if I poke him he'll resort to childish bullshit. And then he'll come up with some quote that I supposedly said that wouldtommyo
- make me out to be a racist who supports Tim McVeigh.tommyo
- You are such an adult all of the time. I really am sorry.DrBombay
- support polish business!DrBombay
- Here we go...tommyo
- lighten up a bit.DrBombay
- I don't like being called a liar you piece of shit. Now that I think about it, I'm 95% sure I wasn't even posting in 2005tommyo
- when Katrina happened. I cancelled my idp account in early 05. But yeah, you remember me calling Spike Leetommyo
- racist. Go fuck yourself you lying sack of shit. If you wan to keep playing your shrewd game of putting words in my mouthtommyo
- then more power to you. You're still a fucking liar. So how about you lighten the fuck up.tommyo
- *sighTheBlueOne
- It happened well after Katrina, when spike made the documentary so...DrBombay
- Is it a massive stretch that you write notes on that guys car and think spike lee is a racist?DrBombay
- I mean it isn't unreasonable.DrBombay
- Or you could just apologize for not knowing what the fuck you're talking about?tommyo
- DrBombay0
Speak of the devil: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20…
- ukit0
Fun fact: Michael Savage's real name? Michael Weiner.
Probably a reaction to years getting his ass kicked in grade school.
- I wish my name was Thomas Savage Weinertommyo
- "Yo what's up Weiner!"
"Don't call me that..I'm..I..I"M SAVAGE!"TheBlueOne
- DrBombay0
Joe The Plumber Says Founding Fathers Hated Communism, Which Was Invented 60 Years After The Constitution
http://wonkette.com/409497/joe-t…
- TheBlueOne0
Name the Lobbyists:
http://www.npr.org/news/specials…
- tommyo0
Rick,
"It happened well after Katrina, when spike made the documentary so..."
You mean this thread where you labeled a few people as racist, you know, except for me? Is this the thread where I called Spike Lee a racist? A thread I wasn't even part of, and quite possibly not even a member of QBN at the time? A quick filter search could have solved this, no? But instead you relied on your faulty memory and stood firm on your position making me out to be a liar, which I fucking hate, obviously.
http://www.qbn.com/topics/426098…
I feel vindicated. Now I'll wait for your apology you fucking ignorant freak.
( I threw that last jab in there to make it that much harder for you to actually do it. )
- DrBombay0
Sorry I must have mistaken you for another idiot.
- So that's it? You apologize for mistaking me with someone else but not for standing firm on your claim?tommyo
- Tommy, you thought the guy with the license plate was racist. I can only imagine what you think of the other people. I said I'm sorry.DrBombay
- said I was sorry.DrBombay
- And you think he isn't, so I can only imagine how many people you think aren't. See the other side of the coin? Of course not.tommyo
- I'd love to know your definition of 'racism' btw. Fill me in. What's racist and what's not to you?tommyo
- Are Spike and Jessie racist?DrBombay
- Even though Spike and Jessie would like us both to support black business'?DrBombay
- eeehh nevermind. I guess it's too much just to ask you what your parameters for 'racism' are.tommyo
- Nice dodge. Racism is discriminating AGAINST someone due to their race.DrBombay
- if the plate frame said "don't support white business" that would be racist. make sense?DrBombay
- So excluding specifically IS racism. But promotion of one race is not as far as you're concerned?tommyo
- This goes full circle back to my Italian American Business Association... is that racist?DrBombay
- So by your definition you wouldn't feel the least bit odd about driving around town with 'Support White Businesses'?tommyo
- Your example is not apples to apples. A business association does not ask people to shop at italian businesses. It's more fortommyo
- similar business owners to get together. I've never seen a business association advertise anything.tommyo
- You know that if I had done the same thing and the plate said 'Support White Businesses' you would have sent me a medal.tommyo
- < At least admit that much.tommyo
- I can't believe I am debating this anymore. So are Jessie and Spike Racists?DrBombay
- you really got your dancing shoes on today.DrBombay
- White businesses are the majority. fucking shit, what don't you get here? Wow.DrBombay
- I honestly have no opinion on them specifically. I'd say that a lot of Chris Rocks routine is racist. But I never watched Lee'stommyo
- documentary. And I could give two fucks about Jackson. I honestly have no opinion to offer.tommyo
- I think you just inadvertantly stated an opinion on Jackson.DrBombay
- It is funny to me that you think I'm racist when I'm of the mind that no one should ever single anyone out because of race.tommyo
- 'some of chris rock's stuff is racist but fuck jessie jackson in the face' hahahahaDrBombay
- I think he's an opportunistic pig is all. I don't care for him. Period.tommyo
- because you have different standards when it comes to blacks, it seems.DrBombay
- so that is or isn't an opinion?DrBombay
- the IABA is as racist as "support black business", sorry but it fucking is...DrBombay
- Oh I see, so since white business are the majority then it's not okay? See, your stance has way too many situationaltommyo
- clauses in it and I think the kind of criteria for 'racism' that you have is more than damaging. Look I'm done here. We shouldtommyo
- try and chat on the phone one day. Cause this course is never ending.tommyo
- no, it isn't situational, white people are always white. once notes hit 30 I'm out. start a new post.DrBombay
- I don't have different standards for anyone. My view of it is as straight line as it gets and if you'd stop stereotyping me you'dtommyo
- see that. I drew a line in the sand, straight as an arrow, one side is racist the other is not, no difference what race the person is.tommyo
- No, you can call me if you feel like it. 702 302 8820. We should have done this long time ago anyways.tommyo
- I cant chit chat on the phone about racism during the work day. SorryDrBombay
- I have co-workers...DrBombay
- Did I say 'call me right now'?? Anytime man. I work alone.tommyo
- DrBombay0
you're dishonest when it comes to my point about the IABA being as racist as "Support Black Business"
What the fuck is wrong with "Support Black Business"? You have obvious race issues if this bothers you IMO.
- tommyo0
How am I being dishonest? I don't even know what IABA is. in any case this subject gets way too deep to have a real conversation on a internet forum...
And the only 'race issue' I have is that there are people who discriminate against other people based on their race. Figure that one out.
- The italian american business association. They would love for you to support italian businesses.DrBombay
- If you dont know what they are, how can you say in previous notes what their goals are?DrBombay
- I didn't get the acronym is all, relax. If you can't see the difference between having an association for a specific racetommyo
- and actively advertising to people that they should support all businesses that are owned by someone of a specific race then maybe that's where yourtommyo
- and what?DrBombay
- maybe that's where your argument is falling flat?? I think there is a world of difference in that scenario.tommyo
- you are fucking tap dancing, I'm done dude.DrBombay
- You just added like ten words to "support black business"DrBombay
- My argument isn't falling flat, that license plate frame prob came from a business association, goddamn you are stubborn..DrBombay
- stubborn, you make TONS of assumptions about shit and portray it as fact.DrBombay
- Yeah I'm tap dancing. You do realize that it's okay if we have different perspectives on things right? World isn't going to end.tommyo
- An ethnic business ssociation is started to make busineeses of an ethnicity succeed. WTF don't you get?DrBombay
- You're more dramatic than my 12 year old cousin.tommyo
- Now you say that after arguing about it for a week. You're a dickhead.DrBombay
- Guy, get this through your little skull. I have no problem with associations. I do have a problem with advertising racism.tommyo
- because you are a moron, "guy"DrBombay
- That's how I see that plate. Because you don't, well, that's of no consequence to me and MY opinion. So.. go cry.tommyo
- You are the "guy" with all of the idiosyncratic race issues.DrBombay
- Keep hurling unfounded insults at me you little girl. Cry cry cry, everyone needs to believe what I do or I'll call them names!! ffstommyo
- You wrote an angry note about a license plate frame and I am the little girl, thanks for playing!DrBombay
- haha an angry note?? You're inventive too. How about you just take me up on my offer. I think it will be positive for us.tommyo
- not interested in that, group discussions are fine.DrBombay
- look at the jpg of the note, you were angry, scribbles.DrBombay
- Listen if you seriously just want to carry on these never ending things then go for it. I'm not playing anymore. Or, we couldtommyo
- I bet the guy got the note and wondered "what the fuck is this about"?DrBombay
- Yes you will, Tommy. You have said that a ton of times before.DrBombay
- have a friendly little phone call and hopefully find some understanding. Up to you, but I'm done with doing it this way.tommyo
- bliznutty0
Global Carbon Tax being passed today (again based on total fraudulant lies)
1 - Reduce aggregate gross domestic product (GDP) by $9.6 trillion
2 - Destroy an average of 1-3 million jobs, every year
3 - Raise electricity rates 90 percent after adjusting for inflation ... Read More
4 - Raise inflation-adjusted gasoline prices by 74 percent
5 - Raise residential natural gas prices by 55 percent
6 - Raise an average family's annual energy bill by $1,500 annually
7 - Increase the federal debt by 26 percent, which is $29,150 per person- linkage?DrBombay
- I've called my Rep a few times to tell him to please vote no on this garbage.tommyo
- where are these stats from?DrBombay
- Not sure if this is exactly where he got them from but: http://www.heritage.…tommyo
- Neat trick alert! Copy and paste a stat into google, it will actually pull up articles containing that stat! *Gasp *Applausetommyo
- to be fair that is from the heritage foundation. they aren't right wing at all!DrBombay
- Didn't know that we needed to only reference sources that you like. Go ahead and send us all a list, k?tommyo
- It would be the same if I posted things from DailyKos, which I never do. because it is biased.DrBombay
- Reading this, it sounds like we have little kids in Washington: http://www.politico.…tommyo
- This is all conjecture from a biased source...I doubt any of you really understand the billukit
- TheBlueOne0
^^ http://www.counterpunch.org/stcl…
Interesting.
- tommyo0
Btw, wtf I keep reading that this cap and trade bill is also being forced to a vote without hardly anyone knowing what's in it. This shit makes me want to rip my hair out. Even if you're for or against this thing.. that's just not good policy.
- funny thing is I only seem to be reading republicans saying that. Sounds like politicking to me.DrBombay
- Why would they out and out lie about something as obvious as having a hard copy of the bill issued? Doesn't make sense.tommyo
- The "current version" of the bill. That is key.DrBombay
- Because they can't win in the house, so they cry foul. Dems did it for years under Bush.DrBombay
- I mean, here it is: http://energycommerc…DrBombay
- They're on the floor no? How can you read it while you're debating. Why can't they finalize, digest it and vote??tommyo
- We've been on this earth for 10k + years and we HAVE to pass this bill without people having a chance to read it??tommyo
- So we can stop global warming? Seems a bit rushed, no?tommyo
- How about just agreeing that our politicians would best serve us by reading and digesting what they vote on?tommyo
- btw, it's over a 1,000 pages.. you can read and understand a 1,000 page bill after reading it on the interwebs? Insane.tommyo
- Remember the patriot act?DrBombay
- This is what has become of American politics.DrBombay
- Yep, it's sad man. Bunch of bullshit.tommyo
- I agree to a certain extent, but dobs is right - the majority of the bill is available. We're talkingukit
- last minute tweaks. They said the same thing about the stimulus. It's not like they never laid eyes on these bills before voting.ukit
- tommyo0
And another one... makes me sick.
"Monica Conyers, Detroit's embattled City Council president pro tempore, pleaded guilty Friday to conspiring to commit bribery, a federal court representative in Michigan told CNN.
Detroit City Council member, Monica Conyers, admits accepting bribes to sway a $1.2 billion contract vote.Conyers, 44, admitted accepting bribes in exchange for her vote to sway the City Council to approve Synagro Technologies Inc.'s $1.2 billion contract in 2007.
It's unclear when Conyers, the wife of U.S. Rep. John Conyers, began her relationship with Synagro, but court papers say she received money from Synagro until December 2007.
Conyers voted in favor of the wastewater treatment contract on November 20, 2007, the same day she received an envelope filled with cash from Detroit businessman Rayford Jackson, court papers say."
- TheBlueOne0
...or when the CT Republicans call a bill to allow the citizens to vote in case of an emergency Senate replacement a "power grab" over the as existing govenor appointed system. Really? Deciding to give the people the vote is a "power grab"? Fuck, last I heard it was called "democracy".