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- Khurram0
Hello people,
Why is Mohammed Barak Hussain Obama appointing all of Clinton's people into his cabinet?
I was reading BBC News and we got:
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton - Wife to Bill Clinton
Chief of staff: Rahm Emanuel - deputy chief of staff to Bill Clinton
Senior adviser: John Podesta - chief of staff to Bill Clinton
White House counsel: Greg Craig - special counsel to Bill Clinton
Vice-president's chief of staff: Ron Klain, - chief of staff to Al Gore
Vice-president's Staff secretary: Lisa Brown - counsel to Al Gorei was no fan of William Jefferson Clinton, but preferred him to George Bush Snr and Jnr.
I guess also the above bring experience from the White House from the centre-left point of view.... still tho, ALL the top jobs are clintonians. Well, pretty much. That ain't right man. Fuck that bizness. And fuck THEM.
- EXACCCCTLY... my point. //CHANGE. You get the point.********
- Don't forget Tom Daschle and his big corporation lobbyist wife. HA!********
- what's the problem with lobbyists?Khurram
- hehe, that guy is called Greg Craig. And you yankiss pronounce Craig Creg. Greg Creg. Thats why it's funnyKhurram
- Kreg? eh********
- Change refers to change from the current administration, dumbass.arthur
- EXACCCCTLY... my point. //CHANGE. You get the point.
- ********0
Bank of America to Boost Stake in China’s No. 2 Bank
http://www.moneymorning.com/2008…
- DrBombay0
these people are qualified though, how much do you want to bet that the lawyer of an arabian horse ranch does not become the head of FEMA with no disaster experience whatsoever?
People act as though things were bad when clinton was president.
- Khurram0
are you telling me, that in the last 8 years, no one has been educated, grown, and risen in experience to be qualified for those top jobs except those douchebags who were running around in the 90s?
Or is this nothing more than political patronage and on and on and on. So it goes. The political class, its who we are and what we do.
At least it ain't the cunts of the right, i guess, *shrug*
- niether of us know the answer to this question.DrBombay
- either way, it's an indictment on your political system and testament to where political power still lies within the Democrat partyKhurram
- Democratic party.Khurram
- It's akin to McCain positioning himself as a "maverick" and then cow-towing to the Bush cabal.Khurram
- exactly Khurram! I thought this election was all about CHANGE. That was utter rubbish********
- you voted for mccain, you didn't want change.DrBombay
- Jaz voted McCain? Fuck, what a retarded thing to do...:-/Khurram
- yup.DrBombay
- lolarthur
- Khurram0
Yeah the last 8 years will be seen in history as marking the beginning of the decline of American global power:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/…
This amuses me.
- and Barry will make it even worse. No experience.********
- He can't do worse than Bush, tell you that. And his concilliatory/diplom... approach is EXACTLY what you needKhurram
- you need. No way will he make it worse.Khurram
- JazX just wants him to be worse so that he can be right on an internet message board.tommyo
- ha ha, nah... it's just the hypocrisies here that crack me up bro********
- and Barry will make it even worse. No experience.
- ethanfink0
I don't think anyone cares anymore about her but, i thought this was kinda sick:
- hahaha they shouldve told the guy to just get out of the shot.. HAHainhaler97
- haha holy crap. I saw some interview with her and Van Sustren where she was skinning sausages. Now heretommyo
- has dead turkeys in the background? wthtommyo
- hahahahaha!!!!!!sofakingbanned
- tommyo0
A MINORITY VIEW
BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2008Evil Concealed by Money
Evil acts can be given an aura of moral legitimacy by noble-sounding socialistic expressions such as spreading the wealth, income redistribution or caring for the less fortunate. Let's think about socialism.
Imagine there's an elderly widow down the street from you. She has neither the strength to mow her lawn nor enough money to hire someone to do it. Here's my question to you that I'm almost afraid for the answer: Would you support a government mandate that forces one of your neighbors to mow the lady's lawn each week? If he failed to follow the government orders, would you approve of some kind of punishment ranging from house arrest and fines to imprisonment? I'm hoping that the average American would condemn such a government mandate because it would be a form of slavery, the forcible use of one person to serve the purposes of another.
Would there be the same condemnation if instead of the government forcing your neighbor to physically mow the widow's lawn, the government forced him to give the lady $40 of his weekly earnings? That way the widow could hire someone to mow her lawn. I'd say that there is little difference between the mandates. While the mandate's mechanism differs, it is nonetheless the forcible use of one person to serve the purposes of another.
Probably most Americans would have a clearer conscience if all the neighbors were forced to put money in a government pot and a government agency would send the widow a weekly sum of $40 to hire someone to mow her lawn. This mechanism makes the particular victim invisible but it still boils down to one person being forcibly used to serve the purposes of another. Putting the money into a government pot makes palatable acts that would otherwise be deemed morally offensive.
This is why socialism is evil. It employs evil means, coercion or taking the property of one person, to accomplish good ends, helping one's fellow man. Helping one's fellow man in need, by reaching into one's own pockets, is a laudable and praiseworthy goal. Doing the same through coercion and reaching into another's pockets has no redeeming features and is worthy of condemnation.
Some people might contend that we are a democracy where the majority agrees to the forcible use of one person for the good of another. But does a majority consensus confer morality to an act that would otherwise be deemed as immoral? In other words, if a majority of the widow's neighbors voted to force one neighbor to mow her law, would that make it moral?
I don't believe any moral case can be made for the forcible use of one person to serve the purposes of another. But that conclusion is not nearly as important as the fact that so many of my fellow Americans give wide support to using people. I would like to think it is because they haven't considered that more than $2 trillion of the over $3 trillion federal budget represents Americans using one another. Of course, they might consider it compensatory justice. For example, one American might think, "Farmers get Congress to use me to serve the needs of some farmers. I'm going to get Congress to use someone else to serve my needs by subsidizing my child's college education."
The bottom line is that we've become a nation of thieves, a value rejected by our founders. James Madison, the father of our Constitution, was horrified when Congress appropriated $15,000 to help French refugees. He said, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." Tragically, today's Americans would run Madison out of town on a rail.
Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.
- My money goes on to kill people in the name of my country.Mimio
- That piece of over-simplified analysis uses emotive metaphors to drive its manipulative point home.Khurram
- It's the same thing that happens in the macro. Only narrowed down to the micro in an effort to show how flawed it is.tommyo
- A micro assessment of a macro system would inherently be 'over-simplified' purely by the obvious nature of it's context.tommyo
- no shit. ayn rand called, she wants her ancient values back.DrBombay
- +1 tommyo********
- it's not tho. the "micro" of "theft" is simple. the "macro" of a socialist system is more complicated. Hence,u r FLAWEDKhurram
- FLAWED. Fuck i can never get the one note thign right.Khurram
- Khurram, thats what I thought but could never articulate.KwesiJ
- I just said that this micro view of a macro concept is inherently simple. So what's your fucking point? I think we all get the facttommyo
- that this representation is SUPPOSED to be a simple one. And I'm sorry Rick, but if you could show anything intommyo
- regards to how our increasingly social leaning system is actually helping people, please do so. Your 'modern' views are flawed.tommyo
- You modern economic equality solutions are about as effective as the War on Drugs. http://en.wikipedia.…tommyo
- unemployment benefits are socialism, right?DrBombay
- so take them away and you have people starving in the street.DrBombay
- that is a viable situation?DrBombay
- No but your whole 'the rich are greedy scum and the poor are only poor because of circumstance' is a cute noveltytommyo
- at best. A little bit of welfare is a mark of good society. What we have now where people are all supposed to be economicallytommyo
- equal is insane. It's as dreamy as Justin Timberlakes eyes on a soft dewy New England morning in spring.tommyo
- ukit0
The Republican Party's image has gone from bad to worse over the past month, as only 34% of Americans in a Nov. 13-16 Gallup Poll say they have a favorable view of the party, down from 40% in mid-October. The 61% now holding an unfavorable view of the GOP is the highest Gallup has recorded for that party since the measure was established in 1992.
Most rank-and-file Republicans (59%) want to see the party move in a more conservative direction and another 28% want it to remain about the same. Only 12% would prefer to see the Republican Party become less conservative.
- ********0
EXCLUSIVE: Obama to delay repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'
http://www.washingtontimes.com/n…- be careful Barry, there's plenty of middle-liners that ain't down with the gays********
- like you, simple simon.DrBombay
- pretty much, yes, except your the simple one, voting with the socialists********
- your group was just party to giving 1 trillion to private businesses, assface.DrBombay
- If you're referring to the bailout Trillion, might want to check the vote count. Besides 'Bozo in Charge' the Dems carried that.tommyo
- be careful Barry, there's plenty of middle-liners that ain't down with the gays
- ukit0
In the first two weeks since the election, President-elect Barack Obama has broken with a tradition established over the past eight years through his controversial use of complete sentences, political observers say.
Millions of Americans who watched Mr. Obama's appearance on CBS's 60 Minutes on Sunday witnessed the president-elect's unorthodox verbal tick, which had Mr. Obama employing grammatically correct sentences virtually every time he opened his mouth.
But Mr. Obama's decision to use complete sentences in his public pronouncements carries with it certain risks, since after the last eight years many Americans may find his odd speaking style jarring.
According to presidential historian Davis Logsdon of the University of Minnesota, some Americans might find it "alienating" to have a president who speaks English as if it were his first language.
"Every time Obama opens his mouth, his subjects and verbs are in agreement," says Mr. Logsdon. "If he keeps it up, he is running the risk of sounding like an elitist."
The historian said that if Mr. Obama insists on using complete sentences in his speeches, the public may find itself saying, "Okay, subject, predicate, subject predicate -- we get it, stop showing off."
The president-elect's stubborn insistence on using complete sentences has already attracted a rebuke from one of his harshest critics, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.
"Talking with complete sentences there and also too talking in a way that ordinary Americans like Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder can't really do there, I think needing to do that isn't tapping into what Americans are needing also," she said.
- Onion?KwesiJ
- ukit, you should post a link, but there is something to be said about relating, this guy's an elitist. 4 and out********
- ukit0
http://www.reuters.com/article/r…
Francisco Bay Area cities promised to build the electric car capital of the United States, announcing a plan on Thursday to work with start-up Better Place to put battery-powered autos on the road in 2012.
Mayors of San Francisco, Silicon Valley capital San Jose, Oakland and other cities in the region said they would offer incentives and standardize infrastructure with Better Place, a start-up that aims to offer electric cars as a service, like a cell phone, at prices similar or below standard cars.
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- TheBlueOne0
"Subject: An example of American management expertise.
It's nice when they use an analogy to show what's really going on - then we can understand it better. This should be sent to GM !!!
Toyota and GM decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River.Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.
BUT on the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.
The Americans, tired and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.
Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing. So American management hired a consulting company referred to them by the US Government and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.
The consultants advised that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing. To prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized into 3 steering supervisors, 1 area steering superintendents, 1 publicity manager, 1 HR diversity coordinator, 1 union rep, and a rower.
They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the "Rowing Team Quality First Program", with a lunch and a free company pen for the rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes, and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and performance-tied bonuses but that decision was held up in committee.
BUT the next year the Japanese won by two miles.
Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment.
The money from all sales and all fore casted moneys saved from further competition was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India."
- they're gonna bail those bozos out, you just watch. I don't believe Pelosi when she says, "accountability"********
- not to f*ck up your point********
- haha the sad thing is that it's pretty accurate. Too much bureaucracy, too little testicular fortitude from a true leader.tommyo
- they're gonna bail those bozos out, you just watch. I don't believe Pelosi when she says, "accountability"
- TheBlueOne0
I forget, but someone around here was making an argument bout how even the thought of an Obama presidency causes the markets to tank.
As much as they might wish it to be so, it ain't so.
"U.S. stocks rose and the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index rebounded from an 11-year low as NBC News reported President-elect Barack Obama will nominate New York Federal Reserve Bank chief Timothy Geithner to head the Treasury. "
http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?p…
No, but do go ahead and continue with your delusional"barry the socilist" rants. They amuse me.
- ukit0
The Dow Jones booms nearly 500 points following news that New York Fed President Timothy Geithner is Obama's likely pick to be treasury secretary.
