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- Is that how Michelle calls Obama to dinner?nicnichols
- that unfunny comment gets a complimentary clown horn honk.. oh the ironyBonSeff
- 'the honk'nicnichols
- HA HA nicnichols nice one...********
- is that tim curry from 'IT'?robco
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- Awesome work...Looks legit!dbloc
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- New Jack City Dawgs! Obama gonna take over the Carter!nicnichols
- HA HA HA! That's the best thing I've seen all year.********
- nicnichols0
This is a personal view of another American. I care not whether he is black; or green, for that matter. To me, what he says is worth reading. I like the thoughts and I agree with the great majority of them.
At the risk of inciting someone's wrath, I share this with those who matter to me.
The article below was written by syndicated columnist, Thomas Sowell, a black man. He wrote it in a humorous way this past week in a column titled "Random Thoughts" and published it in newspapers nationally, so maybe you've already seen it. If not, be my guest:Senator John McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama can cause me to vote for McCain.
After long and serious thought, I have decided to endorse Senator John McCain for President.
I have always voted for the person and have not voted for anyone because some political party was telling me who I should vote for.
We all know the choices by now and, that said, I do believe that the process of selecting a chief executive is deeply flawed. The words "money" and "special interests" come to mind, among many others.
Here's the way I see it:
Barack Obama, you are a fine public speaker. You are also an extremely liberal Senator from the State of Illinois , which has a long and rich history of political corruption of the first magnitude. You are indeed a child of that system.
You have finally insulted my intelligence far beyond my capacity to tolerate your insults. It has nothing at all to do with your skin color. As a matter of fact, it would be so COOL to finally have an African-American for President. What a great statement that would be to the entire world that we are indeed the greatest country on earth!
But, unfortunately, General Colin Powell is not running, and YOU are NOT the man for this job !
Barack baby, you want me to believe that you have never heard the sermons of your own pastor, the Right Reverend "God@#*&America" Jeremiah Wright. It is a matter of record that this has been your church for over 20 years. It is a matter of record that you were married there by this very pastor, and that your children were baptized there.
The good Reverend saw fit to visit Khadafy in Libya with you and to give a lifetime achievement award to Louis Farrakhan, of all people.
We have all now seen excerpts of his sermons all over the airwaves by now. And you have publicly stated that this man IS your "spiritual mentor."
BUT, your pastor is NOT the reason I am NOT voting for you. His words were disturbing enough, but it is your own HUGE church congregation, seen jumping, hooting and howling to his words in the background that disturb me the most. And please don't tell me you attended church there and never once heard a "discouraging word" in the 20 years you attended there. Don't tell me, that in addition to the good reverend, that you are now not having anything to do with all those other people seen hooting and howling out in the audience in the background of his fiery tirades. Even Oprah Winfrey got disgusted and walked out on your campaign. I am no Oprah fan, but still she did the right thing.
Now you look me in the eye and ask me to believe that you never heard such language in all the years you attended there! This is like me telling you that I attended dozens of Klan rallies and never once heard the "N" word. Yep. And Bill Clinton "did not inhale".
Yes, Mr. Obama, we all have friends who have said stupid things that embarrassed us, but NOW you have asked me to believe something that is so incredibly stupid that you are telling me that I am just stupid enough to believe you. THAT is the main reason that I will never vote for you.
I am deeply sorry, that in a country teeming with enormously talented African Americans who would make a good President, that the political system has chosen YOU. You are a pathetic and plastic excuse for an American, who will not even salute the Flag during the Pledge of Allegiance. God forbid you ever get near the Oval Office.
Which leaves us with Senator John McCain.
John, you are a flawed man. You are a bit old, a bit looney, and you have a notoriously bad temper.. This perfectly qualifies you, in my humble opinion, to lead us for the next eight years.. I WANT your trembling hand on the nuclear button.
Think about it.
We have Kim Jong IL, Chavez and Ahmadenijad all running around like lunatics, threatening America and threatening to plunge the world into nuclear Armageddon. We have Putin and the Chinese blustering and rattling their sabers at us. I want John McCain in the Oval Office and I want him to be really ticked off at all these other nut jobs around the planet.
John, once you are elected, I want you to go into the Oval Office and throw one of your perfect FITS. Jump up and down and throw something through a plate glass window. Rip the drapes down and foam at the mouth a bit. And I want the whole thing on camera so that Ahmadinejad can see it. I want ALL of these "world leaders" to lay awake at night and to break out in a cold sweat every time they think of messing with the United States of America .
I want the nuclear button sitting right next to the alarm clock on your night stand. I want pictures of this to be sent to Iran , Russia , China , Venezuela, Cuba , Libya , Syria , Pakistan , and those other dopes in the sheets, the Saudis.
On the domestic front, poor John did try and reach across the aisle to the opposition in a desperate effort to compromise and to get the Congress to do something.You may not agree with his efforts, but at least he TRIED . For all his efforts, all he got handed to him was his head in a basket. The liberals are ticked at him and the conservatives are ticked at him. Just my kinda guy.
Finally. John McCain knows on a most personal level what it is to suffer horrible torture for years and to see others die, right in front of you, for their love ofAmerica . When you ask him about it, he will tell you that what he did was "nothing special. " Even more incredibly, he states that ANY American who truly loves his country would do exactly the same as he did in that situation. You and I will have a hard time believing that, but the real point is that John McCain believes that about the "average American," and that, dear friends and neighbors, is why I will cast my one poor ballot for on election day forJohn McCain -- warts and all."
- "child of that system" sold me.********
- another american? you mean acolyte of the Chicago School, an economist, Mr. laissaez-faire?********
- "Just my kinda guy." faux populism... really why not drop some G's? keepin it palin,bro!********
- +1 for the article. Black and educated.********
- Country Club First********
- I really dig Thomas Sowell ... haven't read his articles in ages. This one is a bit over the top imo. He's a good dude though.tommyo
- Over the top? And the 3200 quasi-liberal rants in this thread aren't?nicnichols
- nicnichols, imagine that. how "Liberal" of them to allow the opposition to have a viewpoint. Right guys?********
- "QBN: where your opinion is fine as long as you love Obama"nicnichols
- nicnichols - I'm speaking individually of this article and not in comparison with this thread. Which is also over the top.tommyo
- Bingo nicnichols. As long as you conform to that slacker anti-establishment mentality, you'll do fine here.********
- Please air all your grievances. My problem with you JazX is that you are crude and seem to prefer it. I find it tiresome,********
- predictable, and most of all displaying a failure of imagination.
I am as close to establishment as you'll ever know.******** - as you'll ever exchange words with.********
- Obama's the only logical choice... that is, if you want to use logic and reason as your guide...SigDesign
- None of those things are true of me. You guys sit around blasting me for my viewpoints. How many times?********
- Obama is your choice if you tend to agree with Socialism. That's about f*cking it.********
- I own a business and will FOR SURE make more than 250K within two years. F*ck him!********
- And you can take that to the bank!********
- fuck you********
- The idea that Obama is a socialist for rolling back the Bush tax cuts is silly. John McCain used to support thatSigDesign
- Oh really? As if he didn't come out and say it. Redistribution my f*cking @sshole. There's A1 reason.********
- If we took these guys literally for everything they said, McCain would want to Bomb Bomb Bomb IranSigDesign
- Well, there you go nicnichols, a true tast of what QBN is all about. Disagree and be lambasted for it. Interesting.********
- Sug, I agree with you, but when it comes down to a choice, the candidate that supports my A1 issue gets me********
- and even the thought of being taxed more to "redistribute" wealth trurns my stomach********
- That's fine. I can understand you make a ton of money and don't want to be taxed like you were in 2000.SigDesign
- It's not a tax to redistribute wealth..simply a fair tax. In reality, though, the loopholes are what need to be closed.SigDesign
- I don't make a ton of money, but the business I set up for my father and I could see a considerable increase********
- but to be taxed even more and have Obama to say "redistribution" Robin Hood BS ain't my cup of tea********
- But, you're taking one word... go here: http://www.youtube.c…SigDesign
- "child of that system" sold me.
- TheBlueOne0
Interesting Note:
The Republican party has not won a Presidential election without a Bush or Nixon on the ticket since 1928.- You forget that FDR was in for nearly 12 of those years (Wartime), but you're right.********
- someone watches "Hardball With Chris Mathews"moveinspace
- Herbert Hoover 1929
Dwight Eisenhower 1953
Ronald Reagan 1981sdkill - reagan?********
- Eisenhower, I prefer the Germanic Eisenhauer, had Nixon as a VP. TBO is right.********
- WTF is wrong with you guys. Bush Sr. was Reagans VP! he ha********
- OK this is all starting to make sense. 30's vs. 20's, age wise********
- I'm 40 by the way.TheBlueOne
- Then you should know even better than I.********
- You forget that FDR was in for nearly 12 of those years (Wartime), but you're right.
- fooler20
A friend took the time to write this and I agree with every word...
I have a sign in my yard for Obama. Yard signs make me laugh because who really cares if a stranger you drive by votes one way or another... you don’t know that person...who cares.
Well, you know me. And if you’re taking time to read this manifesto disguised as an essay, you might care to know or have the guts to ask why I am voting for Obama.
• My first vote ever was for George H Bush.
• My parents are one-issue conservative voters (more on that later).
• I think our two political parties hold far too much power over our political system.
• I didn’t vote a ‘straight Democratic ticket’ this year.
• I was a lock to vote John McCain in 2000 until George W sucker-punched him and then cheated his way into the office, and stole our country from us. That election, I ended up voting for Al Gore and then later became a Democrat.I say all this so I have some credibility as a voter who votes both ways.
John McCain: I had admired his smart wit, his easy style. His McCain-Feingold bill for campaign finance reform. Genius! We need more political campaign reform today! Like reform away from my phone lines. McCain’s not an evangelical politician who claims to know God’s will in his politics, which is important to me. That was until he started pandering to win the presidency. And he lost me from that point on.
When I saw Obama speak at the 2004 DNC, I said, wow. Who is this guy with the funny name. He is one to watch. I never thought he’d run so soon, and I was skeptical and hoping he’d hang back another 6 years, but after this country got so fucked up, I am glad he stepped up. I remember thinking who ever has to clean up starting Jan. 2009 has the shittiest job ever. Well, he literally has given me hope.
Here’s why I give him my vote.
Intelligence: I think both men are smart, which just makes me feel so much better than where we are with W. I could live with McCain as president. But I have confidence out the whazoo if Obama were president. He just has the right thing to say and do in any situation. Let’s not confuse intellect with elitism. Elitist is a man with seven houses, private jet, and a pre-nuptial agreement (er, that’s McCain, people.)
Education: speaks volumes about the two choices. I mean, its not even close.
Obama:
1. Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
2. Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
Biden:
1. University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
2. Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)
McCain:
1. United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899 (no wonder he crashed planes and got shot down in enemy territory.)
Palin:
2. Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
3. North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
4. University of Idaho - 2 semesters – journalism
5. Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
6. University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
(Now, I’m Journalism major, so I can’t knock that, but in my defense, she was a sportscaster and read the news.)Loyalty/Fidelity/Faith: Obama is married to Michelle. First marriage. They seem to have a great relationship. Trust. Yadda Yadda. McCain had extramarital affairs (plural!) before ending his first marriage, to date and marry Cindy (18 years younger... aka rich trophy wife.) My trust goes first to those who can make good commitment choices, and then have the loyalty to keep those promises. Not to mention I like Barack choosing a smart feminist partner. McCain’s first wife was a model. Cindy is ...well, a little Stepford. I just don’t like that track-record.
Fiscal-sensibility: This is tied directly to intelligence. I think Obama will be smart enough to create a budget that keeps to his promise on taxes. On a personal level, my household doesn’t make more than $250,000 a year so, hell yeah, I am voting for Obama. If you make over $250K, that is the only logical reason to vote for McCain and I will support you 100%. And be your best friend.
On a national level: people will argue that jobs will leave the US when Obama taxes companies and the rich. Newsflash: Bush had the most gluttonous tax advantages for the wealthy and guess what: Rich get richer. Recession for the rest of us. Unscrupulous corporate practices. Unemployment goes up. Jobs leave the country anyway. I trust Obama to make sensible and smart choices here. McCain has no plan but I expect the country will flounder a bit more spending on the war. No one should expect miracles in the next 4 years anyway.
Issues I care about most....
• Healthcare reform: check and check!
• Early childhood education: check and double-check!
• Energy & environment: check!
• Economy: I hope he can do what he says he can do. I personally feel like W ran up our credit cards so high, it will be impossible to bring it down in 4 years and get us squared away without asking each of us for higher taxes. (Oh, and I am willing to pay higher taxes if W is impeached, and will work for free the rest of my life if he is imprisoned. A girl can dream.)The other issues I care less about are here: http://www.barackobama.com/issue…
The only issue disagree on Obama is social security, but McCain has no answer either. Both political parties have avoided this crisis- in-the-making for so long...you should vote out all your Senators and Congress people...but that’s another topic.The other issue. Abortion. My opinion. My parents only vote their faith on this one issue. I think that’s weak when there are hundreds of other things going on that affect the millions in this country and this world. I’m a Catholic who has a deep respect for life. That goes beyond the human fetus, to Iraqi civilians, Darfur refugees, illegal Mexican immigrants, children with no healthcare in this country, gun-violence victims, and the list goes on. My choice will be to educate my children about sex on an intellectual and moral level. Never had an abortion. Never will. That’s my choice. Pro-Choice is not Pro-Abortion. I don’t believe it’s right to force your morals on another person and I like what Obama said, that both sides can agree we want to eliminate unwanted pregnancies. HERE HERE. Preaching abstinence-only education is naive, dangerous and pointless. You can ask Sarah Palin about that though.
World View: Obama, again a highly educated man, represents my view that talking with countries, dialogue opens doors, compromise happens, peace is an option. Did you see the throngs who went to hear him speak in Germany? The world has more hope for the US with Obama. I know McCain also has lots of experience stemming from his Senate committee and his military career, but I like that Obama will represent an enlightened view of world politics.
Patriotism: This is an issue drummed up with the uneducated notion that Obama is Muslim and affiliated with terrorists. If you believe this, I can’t even waste my time. Try reading newspapers and turning off FOX. Both McCain and Obama are fiercely patriotic, but for different familial happenstance.
Ethnicity: Everyone thinks that people ‘say’ they will vote for Obama in public, but won’t when they get into polls because of closeted racism. Really? I don’t buy it. The racist voters are already making fun of Obama’s middle name. They’re not going to be shy. I am proud to think our country is on the verge of voting a black man as president. He will clearly be the president of real change on November 5th.
Age and Experience: McCain might be older, but his politics are outdated. He doesn’t get technology. He thinks Capitol Hill should stay the same as he’s been there for years. Obama gets technology and energy independence and what that will mean for us, and I’m excited for him to change politics. Oh and I love that McCain ads have to associate Obama with Pelosi and Dodd “despised liberals” because Obama is so very likable, he’ll be able to reach both parties and appeal to common sense.
Veeps: Biden. Eh. I like him. He’s not as exciting and inspiring as Obama, but I think he counter-balances Obama’s so-called ‘elitism.’ I wasn’t a Hillary supporter anyway, so I never saw that happening.
Palin. I think it’s cool she was a mom who got into politics to make a difference. More women need to do that. I think its uncool how unprepared she’d be if she had to be president. She’s already made a poor choice taking McCain’s ticket. She clearly doesn’t have the reasoning skills and common sense, or she would have seen what an uphill battle this would be for her. (Palin is another topic completely, but that’s a diversion.)
McCain is 72. One in five US presidents have died in office...and McCain is the oldest. If she were left in charge, she would be a puppet president; much like W is Cheney’s puppet now. I’m tired of folksy, uneducated, purely scripted people on my TV telling me they’re “the deciders” when they really have nothing to do with it.
Ok, so quiz me. Ask away. There's so much more I admire, and I don't have room for more. I love this stuff and I don’t get offended easily. But be warned. You can’t change my vote. I already voted. ;)
- You forgot, Obama doesn't know his father and McCain does. That's a HUGE factor.********
- what difference does that make if any. Actually it throws the whole "his dad has a muslim so he is a muslim" theory right out the window.fooler2
- the windowfooler2
- I suppose, I think there is something to be said for having a father figure in your life and not. Look at society********
- Shall I bring up various groups' demise due to the lack of a father figure? And don't say his grandfather.********
- JazX, by your measure, why should we elect someone who's been traumatized by war?SigDesign
- Traumatized or experienced what the rest of the world can be brutally like? Admiration here. Family as well like that********
- I think it's also admirable for someone to rise to the top without a father figure.SigDesign
- You forgot, Obama doesn't know his father and McCain does. That's a HUGE factor.
- ********0
On a side note, I have a friend related to the former Secretary of Commerce from December 16, 1919 - March 4, 1921 in the administration of President Woodrow Wilson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos…
He was from Ohio and she moved from Ohio into Upper Western PA. Come to think of it, she's well off as well.
- I should say her family did many years ago.********
- hey man. what's up? what's uh... with all the images dude? you fall on your head recently?kona
- Ha ha, nah.. their a blast to post. nicnichols and I are having some FUN********
- yeah ok but i'm not here much and i remember this thread being really cool with some good insight and opinions...kona
- kinda seems ruined now. no offense, but there's no need for the racist images. that's just spreading ignorance.kona
- anyways. hope all is well. be cool. go obama.kona
- I didn't create those images, just posted them to see what the reaction would be. I figured an uproar would occur********
- And as for the thread being "cool", yeah everyone sat around pulling a circle-jerk social dance********
- At any rate, I hope you're well as well. :)********
- I should say her family did many years ago.
- TheBlueOne0
"Shall I bring up various groups' demise due to the lack of a father figure?"
- JazXOh yes, please do. I want to be amused by more of your closeted racist bullshit.
- Might make Obama inclined to help stop fathers from abandoning their kids... oooh scarySigDesign
- Absolutely, take a gander at the African-American community and do some research on crime numbers.********
- Actually, that is one thing that I think Obama might be able to do well. But then again, he's a politician, re-election...********
- Might want to do a little research, perhaps take a class, on African American studies, JazXSigDesign
- Welfare Reform would be something I also think he might be able to do, but it dudn't sound like it********
- I Gotta go with their educational background at this point... I want someone intelligent in the white house.SigDesign
- http://www.washingto…********
- TBO, I'm sure the numbers are even worse than 48%. That numbers seems low to me anyway.********
- That's a societal problem that needs to be fixed... it doesn't denigrate the entire race...SigDesign
- The studies are based upon race. Go research them********
- Fatherless families are a product of the welfare system. Gooo Welfare!! Google 'fatherless welfare'. Read: http://www.independe…tommyo
- http://www.independe…tommyo
- imagine that tommyo. WOW********
- Yeah, simply because gov 'helps' poor and minorities with $ does not mean that these people are actually benefiting.tommyo
- It's a general Dem misconception but it sure seems nice on the surface eh? Look deeper and you see truth.tommyo
- the first line of that Wash Post article is about an underage unwed mother. ( cough palins daughter has a father figure cough)fooler2
- BonSeff0
i'm sure Obama is quite the exception to your fatherless crime statistics- but keep grasping for straws
- Really? I don't think it's within one racial group alone, however, it can be observed quite frequently within some.********
- Come on... Obama's not a criminal. You're just working yourself up for no reason...SigDesign
- I never said he was a criminial. It's a perfect example of how you guys will attack someone for one point********
- Really? I don't think it's within one racial group alone, however, it can be observed quite frequently within some.
- lackofcolor0
ALSO you are ignoring the fact that McCain's father was an asshole who was often absent. Just cause his asshole father was around more often doesn't make it a good thing.
- no shit- dude's dad was always out to sea.. mccain is on record saying thatBonSeff
- and an alcoholiclackofcolor
- yeah protecting your families @sses in World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War. http://en.wikipedia.…********
- Abusive father is worse than no father... take it from my mother...SigDesign
- Regardless, the family unit was still there, it's not as if his dad abandoned them.********
- And define abusive? Hard-nosed, stressing education, morality and decency isn't abusive to me.********
- ********0
Startling Statistics
Results of a recent Men Against Domestic Violence Survey indicate that:85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come fromfatherless homes.
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes.
75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes.
70% of juveniles in state operated institutions come from fatherless homes.
85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in fatherless homes.
80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes.
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.These statistics translate to mean that children from a fatherless home are:
20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
9 times more likely to drop out of high school
10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances
9 times more likely to end up in state operated institutions
20 times more likely to end up in prison
10 times more likely to commit rape ... and
32 times more likely to run away from home
- lowimpakt0
Jaz - the reason people have a go with you isn't just because you have a different political opinion it's because you appear to to be racist (or at least ignorant of potential race issues).
There is no point entering a politics thread if you get offended when people see things differently and have a go at more extreme opposites of opinion.
You also can't expect people to take your opinion seriously if it's based primarily on un-funny photoshop hacks.
- actually not, I grew up in a city neighborhood, went to city schools with pleny of blacks, etc. I've seen it.********
- and if you don't think it shapes your viewpoint. seeing the actual problems in place, you're crazy********
- actually not, I grew up in a city neighborhood, went to city schools with pleny of blacks, etc. I've seen it.
- BonSeff0
great job digging those numbers, columbo
again- refer to my post above.. but being the closed-minded bigot that you are, doubt it makes a difference- a bigot? hmmm... that's odd. I guess the service in the US Peace Corps helping poverty stricken African doesn't count********
- Mind you, it was "volunteering" and I could have left at any point during the 2.5 years in a God-foresaken land********
- You keep wearing that badge of honor...TheBlueOne
- ...did you call all the people you helping out "monkeys" while you were there?TheBlueOne
- Did I eve call anyone here a "monkey"? I posted a picture of curious george.********
- I went on to compare that same picture with the bushorchimp.com site. typically, you guys get all exceited********
- You keep wearing that badge of honor...– TheBlueOne3/6
No doubt, I will. Great experience********
- a bigot? hmmm... that's odd. I guess the service in the US Peace Corps helping poverty stricken African doesn't count
- DrBombay0
goofy bastardo.
- dbloc0
JazX you still alive?
SHOCK: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH
- 'B' CARVED INTO 20-YEAR OLD WOMAN'S FACE... DEVELOPING...dbloc
- LOL, McCain was at Robert Morris college recently. PBurgh is important grounds for these suckers********
- Holy shit...what the fuck is wrong with people??? Disgusting.tommyo
- must not have been that bad, the woman refused treatment.robotron3k
