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- utopian1
Trump goes on Twitter rant about 'fake news' amid reports of staff shake up
One day after returning from his first foreign trip, Trump fired off several messages on Twitter Sunday morning about recent leaks coming out of his White House, claiming they are made up by the “fake news” media.
#TrumpShitShow
- *waits for Trump's camp to use 'sources say' in about three and a half weeks time*detritus
- He uses "many people say" and "I have very credible sources" constantly. #fakenewsbulletfactory
- Are those the same sources who told him about Obama's birth certificate? And I thought the tangerine peanut-penis' lawyers were checking his Twitter diarrhea.face_melter
- Yeah, also the same sources that told him about the 1,000's of cheering Muslims on rooftops after 9/11bulletfactory
- can this guy be any more authoritarian? it's like he has read "Dictatorship for Dummies"inteliboy
- and watch all his mindless supporters continue to parrot "fake news"inteliboy
- whilst their health care, open internet and environment is destroyed in front of their eyes.inteliboy
- he's having a breakdownCygnusZero4
- he's the biggest spreader of fake news. birther shit, illegal votes, wiretapping. 0 evidence to back any of this upCygnusZero4
- To be fair, dick as he is, he is probably right about those points.mugwart
- detritus0
- #HighBeamBusterBoy
- #ivankamoldero
- spoke German with Merkel, Italian with the Pope, and French with Macron, what a ditz...IRNlun6
- I wasn't trying to imy she's stupid. Actually, the opposite.
Cold, calculating; Dead insidedetritus - An ex girlfriend grew up speaking 6 languages...it's not uncommon for Eastern Europeans. Melania's still dim as fuck and super unaware regardless.see_thru
- utopian3
Donald Trump Rode in a Golf Cart, While His Fellow G7 Leaders Walked. The Sunday Times reports that fellow leaders "walked the 700 yards from a Greek amphitheatre.
- #TrumpLazyPOSutopian
- because that dumb fat fuck thinks exercise is bad for youmoldero
- But he's in perfect health his doctor said.monospaced
- He's looking fucking old, tired and pasty. Gee, I hope he doesn't drop dead SOON.BusterBoy
- Still thinks he's campaigning, trying to gets everyone's attention.face_melter
- He made such a big deal of Hillary not having the stamina to lead, he'll be desperate to hide any fatigue.monoboy
- He's never lifted a finger in his life. If it wasn't for the odd round of golf, the presidency would kill him in less than a year. All he eats is steak.monoboy
- Well done with ketchup and a coke. I'm amazed he's reached 70.monoboy
- i bet he has a blood boymoldero
- ********0
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/28/us…
cnntv/index.htmlFareed Zakaria: Liberals think they're tolerant, but they're not
Fareed Zakaria said Saturday that though many liberals think they are tolerant, often they aren't.
Zakaria noted that "at the height of commencement season," many new graduates across the country had made their political views apparent, from the Notre Dame students who walked out as Vice President Mike Pence gave his commencement address to the crowd members who booed Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos during a speech at Bethune-Cookman University.
"American universities seem committed to every kind of diversity except intellectual diversity. Conservative voices and views are being silenced entirely," Zakaria said.- http://www.cnn.com/2…********
- The right is expert in double standards. They claim the left has to meet standards they don't. Also if a moronic university rejects any scientific evidence...sr_rosa
- ...because of religion, that's freedom. But if a university let someone speak and the students decide to express their opinion, that's anti-freedom. Genius.sr_rosa
- True, some on the left are silly, Citizen Smith tumblr cunts but there's a difference between calling out shitheads for their abject fuckery and 'intolerance'face_melter
- (as a note on the article, not sr_rosa's text)face_melter
- Universities banning speakers because of their views worry me. We need extreme views aired, debated and scrutinised with rational thought and reason.monoboy
- We need to get people out their bubbles, no matter how distasteful to most. Dangerous confirmation biases are being cultivated by the internet and social media.monoboy
- Friends of mine have become quote anti-liberal thanks to keyboard 'alt-right' crusaders pushing lies online, often anonymously and just for adclicks.monoboy
- Walking out of a commencement speech isn't intolerance nor a problem. Holy fuck.monospaced
- And universities haven't banned speakers because of their views either. Not sure where anyone got that nonsense idea.monospaced
- The REAL intolerance is the right imposing laws to allow discrimination in businesses and public schools.monospaced
- ya, universities are tolerant.
http://heterodoxacad…Gnash - Are you kidding mono? What part of free speech Is conditional?Morning_star
- conditional?monospaced
- a group of students does not mke the entirety of the left. the left is actually extremely tolerant in the big picture and everyone knows thatmonospaced
- using a group of students who refuse to listen to an asshole who they hate give a speech is just choice, not intolerance.monospaced
- https://www.youtube.…Gnash
- It's a passive aggressive defense. But it is true, not many liberals are tolerant of bigots and religions taking away people's rights.formed
- The folk in Gnash's link are fucking clowns and an embarrassment, exactly the type of tumblr spastics who give everyone else a bad name.face_melter
- http://www.telegraph…monoboy
- You can exercise you're right to protest, but when Universities ban folk outright it shuts down debate. It's counter productive.monoboy
- And that includes white supremacists, far right pricks, anti-semites and homophobes. Get them out in the open and challenge their views. None of it holds up.monoboy
- Hate is not an idea. Having someone debate to defend his/her/them right to exist and be treated as a human being is not a debate, it's harassment.sr_rosa
- https://pbs.twimg.co…Gnash
- That doesn't mean that you have to invite everyone that has a stupid idea, and treat him/her/them as an intellectual.sr_rosa
- That concept of treating every idea like they were equally legit is stupid. Must students of economics listen a speech of how positivity attracts money?sr_rosa
- who defines stupid -- the student union?Gnash
- there's a long list of 'intellectuals' that have been no-platformed by universities kowtowing to the inane braying of the SUsGnash
- lol are people really upset that higher educational institutions won't allow hate speech and bigotry? you've gotta be kiddingmonospaced
- right now, it's the SUs that are deciding what is 'stupid.' Morons leading more morons, to a moronic moronacracy .Gnash
- count yourself amongst the morons, mono, if you really think people are only upset about not being allowed to racist.Gnash
- I don't think you can call yourself a liberal if you won't defend the right of free speech, no matter how abhorrent you find their views.monoboy
- Public acknowledging of certain views exist isn't an endorsement. Bringing them down with facts and reason is the real act of defiance imo.monoboy
- *acknowledgement*monoboy
- Even the alt-right zealots the hid behind free speech drew the line on that tedious Milo twat after his pedo comments. They like what he said until then.monoboy
- I'm not a moron, and I always defend free speech. There is no free speech infringement here, and if you don't see that, you're the morons.monospaced
- A university speaking engagement like a commencement, whatever, is an honor. Assholes are free to speak their mind anywhere they want, btw, without persecution.monospaced
- that's the definition of free speech, btw ... nobody is being silenced by laws or the government, no punishments for having a different point of viewmonospaced
- ... being denied a speaking engagement because a school thinks your point of view is despicable is THEIR RIGHT, not an infringement ... get it?monospaced
- Now, we're only talking about students here, not an institution, that simply refused to listen to someone they don't like. Also not intolerance or infringement.monospaced
- You're missing a distinct point. These people were/are invited to attend by students/unis, only to be denied because of a backlash from other students.monoboy
- It sucks that students boo and shout over a speaker entirely, but walking out of a room during a speech is not the same as booing over top, nor is it censorship********
- And can everyone stop calling each other morons because of a difference of opinion.monoboy
- asshole™ is perfectly acceptable.monoboy
- ya, peeps like germaine greer, richard dawkins... are despicable. The list is endless. Your head is so far up your assGnash
- no one is fucking talking about Golden Dawn giving a lecture, here. jesus.Gnash
- is this what you see everyday on your way to work?
http://rarehistorica…Gnash - ffs, not everything you don't like is fucking racist and fascist.Gnash
- lol, walking out isn't infringement, it isn't silencing or censorship, it's ALSO freedom of expression, and the freedom to not listen to dumbfuck assholes speakmonospaced
- http://www.cnn.com/2…
- sted0
- lol at he had to change it for his golf places in Scotland :)uan
- They're all going to be rebranded "Trump Presidential" any way...see_thru
- https://www.nytimes.…detritus
- uan0
A mercenary and security firm known as TigerSwan targeted the movement opposed to the Dakota Access Pipeline with military-style counterterrorism measures...
- ********3
I agree that universities today are occasionally having trouble with "progressive" student groups who are trying to silence certain speakers, etc. It's a problem. However, this does not mean that every speaker should be given a platform. Guests should be invited based on academic merit, only. This is a difficult task as universities are places that often are pushing the boundaries of knowledge.
HOWEVER, I find it completely, completely bullshit that people like Anne Coulter and Milo Yianni are the loudest voices complaining about being un-invitied to speak at certain venues. These two people go OUT OF THEIR WAY to say things that are inflammatory, often with no basis in reality. Milo and Anne make ridiculous jokes, say offensive shit and on purpose, routinely. THEY SPEND THEIR TIME TRYING TO PISS PEOPLE OFF AND MAKE ENEMIES.
And then they cry that people get angry when they come around.
Milo and Anne understand the media very well, and they work as professional assholes. That's how they earn a living. There's no hypocrisy anywhere quite like the people who try very very very hard every day to piss off as many people as they can, and then claim that their rights are being taken away by pissed off people. Milo and Anne and these assholes create the anger, then feed off it.
At least the "progressive" students who are trying to silence them generally have good intentions. They may be wrong to do so and misguided, but at the heart of it they're often just trying to make the world a better place in the way that they feel is best. It might not be right, but at least it's honest. It's important for society to remind these kids that they are still students, and not let them dictate any sort of censorship, etc.
But, to give the same weight to the intolerance of the far-left with the intolerance of the far-right is just completely absurd.
- Like, does Milo even have a degree? Seems like he failed out or dropped out of many universities, but is otherwise uneducated.********
- Milo was an editor of Breibart, who some think has caused a right-wing cultural revolution in thinking. Dropped out of Manchester got accepted to Cambridge.monoboy
- Prick deserves more scrutiny.monoboy
- Sadly, the press and media just used him for the exposure. TwatBait journalism makes money sadly.monoboy
- He got expelled from Wolfson, Cambridge.********
- What a fucking loser:
https://thetab.com/2…******** - alt-right troll is a legit career path, unfortunately. certainly more lucrative than proper journalism if you are a telegenic gobshite contrarian.Fax_Benson
- Milo is a conman with previous for swindling money from hapless goons - of which /pol/ and reddit arses have an endless supply.face_melter
- I'm sure someone like Milo can find the correct platform for his kind of speaking, but he shouldn't expect a warm welcome from the education communitymonospaced
- lol, here's your 'education' community:
https://www.youtube.…Gnash - You work really hard to avoid the truth here Gnash using YouTube videos that continue to fail to address the point.monospaced
- i dont agree. there's a real problem on campus.Gnash
- fortunately though, most of the whiners are taking useless degrees and will end up just serving coffee or artisanal toast.Gnash
- whining isn't a real problem! it's not a rights issue, it's not censorship, it's not free speech infringement, or intolerance, or any of what you make it out tbmonospaced
- Like, does Milo even have a degree? Seems like he failed out or dropped out of many universities, but is otherwise uneducated.
- lowimpakt2
while standing beside Putin, Macron says that Russia Today, Sputnik are 'organs of influence and propaganda'.
this is a big step up from trolling trump
- I watched the video, well played Macron!ernexbcn
- "fake news"robotron3k
- Gnash1
- He must get sick of all these cunts coming round his house - going to Lidl for biscuits, hiding the stroke mags.face_melter
- lol ^Gnash
- even the guy in the painting look fadedApeRobot
- lol @facested
- Justin truderp... looks differentSalarrue
- he's got that, "because it's the current year" look in his eyesGnash
- @face you make me laugh all the time, you should be a stand-up comedian. for real.renderedred
- ^ i concurGnash
- You've been a wonderful audience!face_melter
- Truderp, lolIRNlun6
- Ramanisky23
For your viewing enjoyment
- utopian1
- #SlumlordBrothers
Like father like sonutopian - Like father-in-law like son-in-lawRamanisky2
- https://kushner.com/…teh
- #SlumlordBrothers
- utopian0
Donald Trump acted like 'a drunk tourist' on Europe trip that led Angela Merkel to proclaim end of US alliance
- dorf5
related to nb's post earlier.
- precisely what I've been sayingmonospaced
- then instead of whining and throwing hissy fits, how about just not go to the lecture. allow those who want to listen, goGnash
- < this backwards thinking only works if you hold the views of the majority.Gnash
- more importantly, freedom of speech protects the views of the minorityGnash
- Freedom of speech does not originate with constitution. Its a universal ideal that was included in the constitution because the they realized that the gov't ...Gnash
- ... had the power to suppress minority viewsGnash
- to ban, silence, yell or throw hissy fits, admits that you cannot address their words with words of your ownGnash
- < this is a silly, naive memeGnash
- no it isn'tmonospaced
- free speech isn't a law. it's a value. simpletons like this meme because it justifies their collective behaviour.Gnash
- it soothes the cognitive dissonance that caused by their own intoleranceGnash
- no it doesn'tmonospaced
- it makes you feel better about yourselfGnash
- freedom of speech certainly IS protected by the law, and people died for that right ... it's far more than a universal value, and it's NOT remotely universalmonospaced
- when someone goes to prison because of what they say, then we can talk about infringement of speech ... until then, you are quite literally the whinermonospaced
- < simpletons wear this kind of naive mewling like it's a badge of honour. when all it does is reveal their lack of critical thinkingGnash
- I'm not a simpleton, nor do I lack critical thinking skills. Nice try.monospaced
- which you're doing now brilliantlyGnash
- yet, you're the one who's failed miserably to grasp what the 1st amendment protects, or how it applies to the current situation that you are whining aboutmonospaced
- and you're the one resorting to name-calling, leading me to assume that perhaps you're the simpleton who's lost any credible argumentmonospaced
- And I'll just assume any future insults you send my way are coming from that place.monospaced
- observation isn't name-calling. you've missed not only the subtext of what I'm saying, but the stuff floating on top.Gnash
- again, which points to why this simple meme is so appealing to manyGnash
- ( love the, I'm rubber, you're glue... retort )Gnash
- I get what you're saying, trust me, I do ... it's just that even then there is no infringement of free speech when it comes to campuses and alt-right speechmonospaced
- but this isn't just a meme, it's an accurate description of the amendment, and it's not a distortion to make people feel bettermonospaced
- you seem to be under the impression that there is a free speech infringement issue going on, and I simply disagree with you... and then you say it isn't law :/monospaced
- Of course I know it's a law. I meant that -- more importantly -- it's a value, and therefore talk of it's application 'strictly' as a law is a naive one.Gnash
- It has to be strictly legal in order to allow people to protest. Forcing views on people is also frowned upon.monospaced
- they're not just protesting, mono. don't be so naive. they're trying to stop the talking from happening. they're trying to prevent the words from being heard.Gnash
- no one is saying speech should not be criticized -- in fact that is the whole mechanism by which free speech reaches truths.Gnash
- yeah, I agree, it's totally stupid and I do not condone it ... but it's also not infringement of rights, and it is being addressed ... nobody losing their jobs,monospaced
- free speech enables criticism -- that's why censors hate it so muchGnash
- these whiners and mewls want the consequences of freespeecr to be greater than criticism...Gnash
- ... they want people to lose their jobs, be boycotted, banned from speakingGnash
- thank goodness that won't happen, because of the strict legal protections of the 1st Amendment ;)monospaced
- I'm perfectly capable of deciding what I can and cannot listen too. I don't need someone deciding that for me, especially a government.IRNlun6
- Or an organization. Service with a lecture, no thanks.IRNlun6
- a government isn't telling you, and clearly you avoid higher education, so you're in the clearmonospaced
- Continuity1
Russia is back.
'Sources: Russians discussed potentially "derogatory" information about Trump and associates during campaign'
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/3…
'One source described the information as financial in nature and said the discussion centered on whether the Russians had leverage over Trump's inner circle. The source said the intercepted communications suggested to US intelligence that Russians believed "they had the ability to influence the administration through the derogatory information."'
- I'm really, really, really dying to know what Russia's got on Trump.Continuity
- Pootini got the negatives!face_melter
- PEE PEE VIDS SOON!moldero
- Of course, they might not, but saying as much has all the desired end result.detritus
- monospaced1
lol ... Mike Dubke, White House communications director, resigns.
- Baby Spice is next. We rarely see him anymore.CygnusZero4
- Continuity2
Ah, here we go. This should make things really entertaining.
'Portland Republican says party should use militia groups after racial attack'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-n…
'Asked if this meant Republicans making their own security arrangements rather than relying on city or state police, Buchal said: “Yeah. And there are these people arising, like the Oath Keepers and the Three Percenters.”
Asked if he was considering such groups as security providers, Buchal said: “Yeah. We’re thinking about that. Because there are now belligerent, unstable people who are convinced that Republicans are like Nazis.”'
- https://media.giphy.…Bluejam
- Sounds like this is nothing more than a socialistic, sharia law that will most likely lead to fema camps and death panels after martial law...kona
- ... and the confiscation of guns has taken place and been declared.
You know... all those things Obama was supposed to do.kona - Sound like they're thinking of reacting like they were terrorists.monospaced
- This has been going on for months. People have been getting assaulted at Trump rallies, these guys helped stop that.IRNlun6
- That racial attack was from a sick fuck who happen to be a Bernie supporter.IRNlun6
- While the news has been 24/7 Russia a lot of shit has not been talked about.IRNlun6
- This article a complete misrepresentation of the Oath Keepers and Three Percenters. They're former police and military stopping violence.IRNlun6
- Man you guys don't believe me but with these kind of articles they're really trying to start a war. This is really badly written.IRNlun6
- https://www.youtube.…Bluejam
- R_Kercz1
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/…
BERLIN — Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany, Europe’s most influential leader, has concluded, after three days of trans-Atlantic meetings, that the United States of President Trump is not the reliable partner her country and the Continent have automatically depended on in the past.
“The times in which we could rely fully on others — they are somewhat over,” Ms. Merkel added, speaking on the campaign trail after a contentious NATO summit meeting in Brussels and a Group of 7 meeting in Italy. “This is what I experienced in the last few days.”
- don't know if it's the translation but that just echoes Trump's point.Fax_Benson
- Merkel ruined Germany, no? She's pretty much irrelevant and on her way out.chukkaphob
- she's relevantmonospaced
- The US is right in demanding Germany and other NATO members pay their share. So yeah, Merkel, cry me a river, but no longer can you mooch off the US. Pay up.chukkaphob
- it takes a true asshole to tell 28 people to their faces 'pay your share' when said asshole doesn't pay anything in taxes.kona
- Yeah, his character and behaviour are both shite. But the issue at hand is policy. And the US is in the right here.chukkaphob
- lol @ ruined Germany. She's frontrunner to win next election.yuekit
- lol. so how many us troops and bases are around europe?sted
- that "payment" share is a bit interesting when it comes to how the us launched attacks in the past decade...sted
- Merkel doesn't ruined Germany. They have the largest and healthiest economy. so lol for sayhing that.sted
- There is only one fucking nation in this world what leaders want to end the modern Europe, and they are using their newest toy your idiot president.sted
- dbloc1
- plauoD?chukkaphob
- I want that as a tattoo on my left butt cheekkona
- took me a minute to figure out what I was looking at.sarahfailin
- Politics thread not on front page!! looks like people have finally accepted Hillary lost... to bad she hasn't.robotron3k
- we can thank Hillary for Trumpmoldero
- Russians actually set up Hillary over a 30 year period, making sure she failed at all her high ranking positions, controversies and the like to get Trump in.robotron3k
- thats pretty goodIRNlun6
- Robo ❤️ Hillary 4 life.inteliboy
- lol, only a fucking idiot would look at this and think Hillary Clintonmonospaced
