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- monospaced3
"There's nobody bigger or better at the military than I am." — Trump in a June 2015 Fox News interview
"I know more about ISIS [the Islamic State militant group] than the generals do. Believe me." — November 2015
"So a general gets on, sent obviously by Obama, and he said, 'Mr. Trump doesn't understand. He knows nothing about defense.' I know more about offense and defense than they will ever understand, believe me. Believe me. Than they will ever understand. Than they will ever understand." — July 2016
- BonSeff0
BUY BUY BUY!
- ********-3
- and there we are - todays masterpiece.fadein11
- Every Time a Bell Rings an Angel Gets His PermBonSeff
- lolz at the naive who think there were'nt any wars going on before T got to office.robotron3k
- @robo, nobody said that ... the only naive are those who thought that Trump would be any different ... truly foolsmonospaced
- The only naivety here is thinking the decision he made was as simple as this idiotic cartoon makes it out to be. He didn't act lightly.monospaced
- I actually don't think it was the best move but I guess we started the in fighting there with 10s of different groups, we need to make sure they fight fair.robotron3k
- fight fair lolfadein11
- are you and your friends going to hold hands in solidarity robo? ;)monospaced
- only my imaginary friends with me in my mom's basement... ;)robotron3k
- then we can't be sure you're actually upset about this, and your lack of outrage and demonstration should be read as outright support for the carnage ;)monospaced
- R_Kercz0
"In every type of government, nothing unites people behind the leader more quickly, reflexively or reliably than war. Donald Trump now sees how true that is, as the same establishment leaders in U.S. politics and media who have spent months denouncing him as a mentally unstable and inept authoritarian and unprecedented threat to democracy are standing and applauding him as he launches bombs at Syrian government targets."
- media reacted the same way after his only "presidential" speech. only lasted a couple of days.Gnash
- The first sentence isn't true but sadly the rest is.********
- except the majority of this country hates him, and trashing him bc he spent years trashing obama for wanting to strike in syriaCygnusZero4
- IRNlun6-1
It's an understatement to say this is an incredibly complex conflict. This has been an ongoing war for the past 5+ years. There are no good guys in this at all; all sides responsible for horrific inhumanity. Having said that, this is my admittedly amateur take on the significant strategic positioning of this strike. I don't support war, I'm just trying to understand the motivations behind this.
This is not an invasion. This strike signals support for a larger regional strategy. The US is no longer leading this, but rather a consortium of regional allies. Albeit in a more clandestine fashion. I see this as the beginning of the end of the Syrian war. But just the start of the larger regional conflict which has the Iranian mullahs in their crosshairs.
In the past few weeks, President Trumps administration has met with the Iraqi Prime Minister, Deputy Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, The King of Jordan, the Israeli Prime Minister, and the President of Egypt. This is an ongoing part of an effort to modernize the region and move away from the radicalized politics of recent decades.
One figure of note that should be paid attention too is the Deputy Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud and his efforts to modernize the kingdom.
Trump just showed the world his redline, and it was already crossed. Everyone knows it would be suicide for Assad to do this and Russia vehemently denies any deliberate use of chemical weapons. Doesn't matter. The previous administration would have waited. This placed the responsibility to determine how this happened squarely on those who committed it, with one less airbase.
I could go on but I'll keep this short. It is wild to see how from one day to the next support for Trump has completely flipped.
- Syria was the least radicalized most modern muslim country in the arab region before the war. Now it's a hellhole. This was a deliberate effort I thinkBeeswax
- I agree. I see many of these countries struggling internally to prevent a pronounced conflict between Sunni and Shia hardliners.IRNlun6
- Which is why I think there's a more clandestine effort to modernize.IRNlun6
- Agree with Beeswax... After visiting many arab countries in the 90's, Syria, was by far the safest and easiest one... Then, we decided to bring'em democracy...gonzalle
- Jordania was cool also.gonzalle
- Central Africans used to go to Libya for work until it was bombed to dust. now they take boat trips to the EU. Thanks HillaryDillinger
- I've read some wild stories about the secretive Arab League commandos. Lightning quick raids that focus on arms and weaponry with no loss of life.IRNlun6
- Devastating to moral when the opposition is so quick they just destroy your weapons and leave you alive. They save the killing for the real bad hombres.IRNlun6
- So by meeting with a few leaders and bombing an airport he is "modernizing the region"? That doesn't make sense at all.yuekit
- If you have a link to the actual plan or reporting on it, would be interested to see.yuekit
- But I'd just be very surprised if Trump, with zero foreign policy experience and understanding of the issues, was able to pull that together. It seems likeyuekit
- people keep reading plans and motivations into Trump's actions that just don't exist.yuekit
- It's allies in the region who are modernizing with or without Trump. No longer for the US to say otherwise, just to decide its level of support.IRNlun6
- Can't take Trump as Trump right now, as much as I like to give him credit. It's more like channeling General Mattis through Trumps public persona.IRNlun6
- lol, so the 1st time Trump does something you don't like, he's just channeling someone else you don't like? he owns all kinds of bullshit, but not this?monospaced
- Conflicted. Because I don't want war but think the way these strikes where carried out was brilliant. And I give all credit to Mattis.IRNlun6
- or blame it on Obama ... :/monospaced
- Take it from their people how they feel about President Obama. His legacy in the region will not be a positive one.IRNlun6
- gotcha, so it was Obama then, but now it's just Mattis ... that's what I thought, you just don't see any faults in Trump, but you've got it out for the black gumonospaced
- Take it from most people on the planet now, Trump's legacy is basically the worst in the nation's history, alread and likely to be unmatched in in our lifetime.monospaced
- Beeswax1
“[The Yinon plan] is an Israeli strategic plan to ensure Israeli regional superiority. It insists and stipulates that Israel must reconfigure its geo-political environment through the balkanization of the surrounding Arab states into smaller and weaker states.
Israeli strategists viewed Iraq as their biggest strategic challenge from an Arab state. This is why Iraq was outlined as the centerpiece to the balkanization of the Middle East and the Arab World. In Iraq, on the basis of the concepts of the Yinon Plan, Israeli strategists have called for the division of Iraq into a Kurdish state and two Arab states, one for Shiite Muslims and the other for Sunni Muslims. The first step towards establishing this was a war between Iraq and Iran, which the Yinon Plan discusses.
The Atlantic, in 2008, and the U.S. military’s Armed Forces Journal, in 2006, both published widely circulated maps that closely followed the outline of the Yinon Plan. Aside from a divided Iraq, which the Biden Plan also calls for, the Yinon Plan calls for a divided Lebanon, Egypt, and Syria. The partitioning of Iran, Turkey, Somalia, and Pakistan also all fall into line with these views. The Yinon Plan also calls for dissolution in North Africa and forecasts it as starting from Egypt and then spilling over into Sudan, Libya, and the rest of the region.
- This is where everything begins and ends. There's no greater truth in my eye.Beeswax
- Whether this was truly their plan or not, Israel has already solidified their strategic superiority. Here's hoping a larger regional peace effort is at hand.IRNlun6
- Was in Egypt few years back. Locals were complaining, the government were helping Israel reclaim land near in border region in exchange for other deals/money.Dillinger
- allthethings1
Anyway, to sum up the day's events: Senate Republicans stole a SCOTUS seat by changing Senate rules for filling the seat. Our POTUS, who is the focus of an FBI investigation, bombed a Syrian airfield supposedly in response to Syria's crimes against humanity, a meaningless gesture meant to distract people's attention from the aforementioned FBI investigation (of treason) that is way more destructive than, say, allowing refugees from Syria to legally enter the United States...My head is already spinning, and it's not even lunchtime yet.
- still think Trump is working for Putin?********
- at least the scotus seems like a good pick. could have been way worse.Gnash
- still think Trump is working for Putin?
- BonSeff3
"still think Trump is working for Putin?"
- omg- makes total sense and will reduce the heat on him for a bit.fadein11
- lol at the conspiracy theories.********
- fadein11 gets a tinfoil hat of the day********
- ^ says the Pizzagate guyyuekit
- you got me OMG but even you must be confused on why your lord and saviour has made his biggest U-Turn yet?fadein11
- Syria strikes:
13 hardened aircraft shelters (HAS)
5 workshops (air maint)
10 ammo storages
7 fuel reservoirs
limited damage to base
#AmericaFirstBonSeff - ^... and they left the runways untouchedGnash
- 55 missiles and they missed the runways?monospaced
- it's almost like they didn't want to damage them.Gnash
- wait, yuekit doesn't believe that pedophile rings exist?********
- does anything less than ww3 mean Trump works for Putin?IRNlun6
- lol @ omg making ridiculous assumptions because someone doesn't believe an utterly ridiculous alt-right conspiracy theory about a pizza restaurantfadein11
- @omg, do you really believe that Hillary Clinton, in partnership with Weiner and other politicians, ran a child sex ring through pizza shops, for profit?monospaced
- yes, his response is just a charade.dorf
- OP311
- kona2
Seriously, if you are concerned enough about the horrible treatment of the innocent citizens of Syria to feel that cruise missiles against the Assad regime are warranted, then how can you justify not wanting to accept them as refugees?!
#bunchafuckinamateurs
- monospaced2
Russia and Trump will fight a pseudo war in Syria, then they will agree to a cease fire, which will include lifting all sanctions on Russia. Trump looks good, poll ratings and arms stocks go up, Russia loses sanctions, Exxon wins, the tip top makes more money, lower and middle class Americans foot the bill and Syrians continue to die.
It's a win-win for Trump and Putin.
- Syrians die because they continue their War .********
- v.plausiblefadein11
- Just watch.monospaced
- thisR_Kercz
- just watch? I was agreeing with you and saying it is v.plausiblefadein11
- Not you, fadein11, that was directed at omg, and others like him.monospaced
- Exactly...see_thru
- lol, I love how omg downvotes thismonospaced
- haha, it's very plausible********
- this is pretty much the closest to reality I have read yetfadein11
- Syrians die because they continue their War .
- kona4
Trump’s alt-right fucktard fans bail after Syria strikes
This is comical
- its ok, he missed the runwayDillinger
- "Hey Putin my love, move your planes out of the hangers so we can bomb them so my demographic base gets a hard-on for me again."kona
- one week, everyone will be back worrying about their likes and markets will be greenDillinger
- but not you Dillinger, not youmonospaced
- just enjoying the show, what a time to be aliveDillinger
- BonSeff2
What a show of force! What backbone.
Just gonna leave this here:
https://twitter.com/Reuters/stat…
- kona2
^^ Probably because vv
Eyewitness says Syrian military anticipated U.S. raid.
Syrian military officials appeared to anticipate Thursday night's raid on Syria's Shayrat air base, evacuating personnel and moving equipment ahead of the strike, according to eyewitness and human rights activists living near the air base.
- They would have from the time they spotted US Navy destroyers, plus approx. 15 min. time a Tomahawk missile traveling at 550mph from a 150m distance to move ass********
- LOL. yes, because it's easy to spot a destroyer from 150 miles away in the middle of the night you fucking dolt.kona
- And you fucking donkey, how would they know WHERE the missiles were going out of the what, hundred possible targets?!? Your stupidity is astounding.kona
- Radar and computer systems designed to provide defense against long range incoming missiles is how.********
- pretty sure they had plenty of time to park planes in designated no bombing time areas. who are we kidding.BonSeff
- guarantee they were fully fueled and loaded up on weaponryBonSeff
- but hey, so much winningBonSeff
- You have 15 minutes and you assume someone needed to emergency park a plane because they left it out?********
- not assuming that auto-parking multiple planes with one button is possible in emergency situations.********
- Trump told the Russians about the strike in advance, fair to assume Russia warned their ally Syriayuekit
- They would have from the time they spotted US Navy destroyers, plus approx. 15 min. time a Tomahawk missile traveling at 550mph from a 150m distance to move ass
- see_thru2
It's ok, because he's like...a smart and presidential person...
- & he has a good brainmoldero
- ... who can also make the difficult decisions. Instead of refusing to standby and accepting al-Assad's horrendous crimes against humanity.********
- omfg, there it ismonospaced
- You think that's why he authorized those airstrikes omg? It was all show...content for the bullshit videos you like to post.see_thru
- And what difficult decisions did he make today? Which Chinese made golf glove to wear when he poses for pictures at Mar-a-lago?see_thru
- boom.BonSeff
- best military strategist ever, ever, believe me, believe mefadein11
- dbloc1
- We're all gonna die!
https://www.youtube.…******** - only 23 of the 59 missiles fired from US warships hit their mark, God Bless AmeriKKKa!utopian
- and NONE hit the runways... haha - I smell a rat.fadein11
- Yup. At over 1$ a pop, you'd expect them to hit the target.monoboy
- Also, Assad was winning the war. Why risk it all to use chemical weapons? Hmmmm.monoboy
- We're all gonna die!
