Art Director Vs. Designer
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- nedwurred
What's the difference?
- CALLES0
usually art directors boss around and harass designers... and if you get a bad one they will take credit for your work
- moamoa0
and you forgot the creative director :)
- cannonball0
art directors have learned that poopie belongs in the toilet, and that you should wear a collared shirt to work. thats about it.
- moamoa0
ääääähhhhmmmmm now I am confused
nedwurred & dearhead ... you both guys "one guy" have/has the same website :)
awww
- moamoa0
an dearheads know the answers of nedwurreds question...
freaky 2012?
- and they're both from MNbulletfactory
- wowwww amazingmoamoa
- dearhead0
I really prefer working in places without art directors, its actually one of the questions I'll ask in an interview. What role do they play/etc.. If i'm not playing both roles, i'm generally not having fun.
Art directors generally come up with the concept, and use designers as their wrist. Bad creative directors do the same thing.
- dirtydesign0
an art director here, comes up with ideas and executes the design as well.
- cannonball0
a big problem in the industry is that people try to find out what is required by a role and then expand or contract to fit those standards. makes for a lot of squandered talent IMHO
- morilla0
Do as I say, not what I do.
- scrap_paper0
I don't know if it really makes a difference. Depends on the work environment. The only relationship I've really seen, regardless of the titles involved, is that some places have a severe distinction between creative and production and some don't.
- moamoa0
art directors are funny...
agencies are booking me sometimes as an "art director" for photography projects... I prefer to say that I am doing art direction and not that I am an Art Director in this case...
We start to talk... blalabla good model, yes... bad make up, yes.. photographer is from spain, aha yes... blabla
me: you like veer fonts?
ad: what?me: I would suggest to put the logo in the middle and smaller
ad: WHY? the client likes it bigme: what do you think about the new saturday & untitled websit
ad: who?me: Alex Trochut?
ad: who?me: Dior Homme suit
ad: yes yes I bought it in grey & black...just an example... but its sad... they loose often their sense & interest... of course not everyone... but many
- The spectrum of the "designer" lexicon is wide enough for one to be clueless about another's interestscannonball
- to be honest, I am just talking about the Directors from BIG companiesmoamoa
- Llyod0
I've worked with ADs who designed but I have no idea how much they were paid. I'll find out
- pylon0
Haha, moamoa.
Totally depends on agency and client size as well. Some ADs at larger agencies, or with larger clients I should say, just because quality-control to make sure that everything designed fits an overly constrictive (and usually dated) style-guide.
Bad ADs and CDs have no idea what they're asking as far as tech, etc. Good ones roll up their sleeves and get their hands dirty, regardless of agency/studio size.
My two cents.
- I agree.. it depends always on the situation and agency size :)moamoa