moral dilema
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- facksake
Someone at work is sitting there on company time doing work for a freelance client. Recently there was talk of them being let go due to not enough work, but now work has been made so they can stay.
What do you do?
- madirish0
do more freelance work on company time.
- Mimio0
lesson learned
- flavorful0
For facksakes ... who gives a shit.
If it doesn't directly affect you in any shape form or fashion, and I'm talking job performance or monetarily of course.
- Jimbo820
As long as it doesn't affect you and they get shit done, who cares?
- facksake0
If they do their work super fast but give the impression of it being difficult...
@flavorful - if it does affect you monetarily?
- Don't fuck with my money.
I think that's a rule everyone has though.flavorful - I have no idea how he would be affecting your cash flow unless he is making you look like an ass or something?flavorful
- Or gets a promotion that you don't get... but be wary of that because then they'll be like, "Yo son...flavorful
- ... why didn't you tell us son. Shoulda told us son. Life's a beach son."flavorful
- hahastudderine
- Don't fuck with my money.
- Spookytim0
I ran a studio with four designers, all of whom were perfectly free to do freelance work as long as the work got done and as long as I never got slapped for not providing enough time, attention or manpower to any requirements.
It never happened. They did a significant amount of freelance work, and they did excellent work, and they wroked late into the nights and at weekends... their choice.
- Thats the way it should be. None of this look over you shouldar culture thats out there today.Iggyboo
- Jnr_Madison0
You a company man?
- ernexbcn0
are you his boss? if not, then look the other way, this shouldn't even be a question
- Spookytim0
Facksake, he'll get judged by his own actions. If you're sitting their trying to shine a light on his activities, you are not applying yourself fully to your job. If he fails to do his work, he'll get disciplined, if he gets all his work done and does some freelance too, good for him.
- facksake0
@vespa - work is being artificially created for him so he doesn't get made redundant. Everyone has been involved in keeping him there and everyone else is extremely busy - so it is a smack in the face is it not?
@Spookytim - I am writing this on my own time, not my client's. It came up when I went to his desk to talk about some work he should have been doing for me and see he is busy doing a redesign for some freelance client.
- Spookytim0
So maybe he's deemed to be a popular person, worth keeping around. You want to go against that?
How does his freelance project look? Good? He sounds like a sterling attribute to a good design studio.
- Jnr_Madison0
Ok, I see your point if you are a small shop and you made sacrifices to keep the guy employed.
- facksake0
@Spookytim - I don't want to go against anything. Only wanted to know what other people think.
Seems the consensus is that it is ok to do work for client B in time that client A is already paying for.
Fair enough, I just wanted to know other people's thoughts.
- emecks0
oh for facksake smack 'im in the mouth and get it over with, ya dick.
- 2pence0
Why do you have to play morale cop? Is it your company? Are you a partner? Does it affect your day-to-day directly? Do you dislike this person?
- "Moral"2pence
- But a Maorale cop could be an interesting concept...
hmmm....Spookyhome - MORALE! NOT MAORALE.Spookyhome
- flavorful0
It seems you obviously care enough, so talk to him about it.
Tell him that during business hours when there is work to be done, you don't appreciate him working on personal projects as it causes other associates to pick up the slack as a result so that deadlines and promises are met and kept. And that when there's nothing going on you could give a fuck all as you're not his boss, but as someone directly affected at certain times it's brought what you deem unnecessary burden for to the workplace.
Then be prepared to get spit on and/or punched in the face and called a gigantic virgin. :D
- exactly, just talk openly. otherwise it sounds like you have personal issues about it or are being jobsworthyvespa
- ukit0
I don't see how this is a moral dilemma. This isn't the kind of thing that would keep me up at night wondering if I was doing right by the great big spaghetti monster in the sky.
- lvl_130
reminds me of this: 42 seconds in to be exact