bad managers
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- boobs0
Carefully consider a few things, from a place deep within yourself:
1) Is it perhaps possible that he's not a bad manager, but that you are a poor employee?
2) Should you point out to him, in a tight situation, that while you personally agree with his viewpoint, and ideas, the direction laid out by the creative brief demands something different?
3) Your next job might bring you under the heel of an even worse manager.
- Gucci0
if you need to treat him with kid gloves, just disagree with him as loudly/vehemently as you feel you need to to get through to him.
If he still doesn't listen. Just be a pro and keep looking around.
- univers0
My submission of a bad manager is audiologicnet
- emecks0
Quote the Peter Principle at them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet…
It is damn near always true and it certainly always fucks off those who it describes.
- businessmanbob0
"I'm not feeling it" is great constructive criticism, especially if followed by "Now what I would do..." or "it's too busy".
- neue75_bold0
Find ‘How to Kill Creativity' by Teresa Amabile and whack yer manager over the head with it...
- businessmanbob0
I usually kick whomever in the kneecaps as soon as I hear the word "pet peeve". I fucking hate that word.
- boobs0
Just because someone manages to be really bad, doesn't mean they're a bad manager.
But, you know, you're probably right.
How much you want to bet he's Latvian?
- businessmanbob0
and peter can shove his principle. If I was made boss of everything all problems would be immediately solved
- citizen_h0
just say thats why your the project manager and I"M THE DESIGNER.. so stick to managing budgets.
The key thing is as long as the creative director or senior design head is ok with it then your fine to say " i've cleared it with the the big creative cheeses".
- I'm assuming bad manager as non - creative. Do you mean they are a designer?citizen_h
- citizen_h0
+ always have valid reasons to back up your design decisions.
- MrOneHundred0
Let down two of his tyres. But make sure you tell him just before he is leaving for the day. And do it 5 days straight. Sure, it won’t help, but it won’t hurt either.
- gentlejesus0
- hahah, been there before. Not that, but like that.Wolfboy
- October0
do a barrel roll
- monkeyshine0
thanks for the advice. The Peter Principle is spot on. I'm relatively new and definitely get the sense that some of this is putting me in my place. "This is the way we do things round here" sorta vibe...though out the other side of his mouth is about how open he is. Talking has been painful...there has never been an instance where I couldn't defend my design decisions and his response is always...yeah, I hear you but I don't like it. Example: "I am not a fan of left aligned sites. We mostly do centered sites." Oh really? Have you ever tested your premise on users? "I don't believe in usability testing."
Oy.
- olli1010
"I don't believe in usability testing" - oh boy. That's usually not a good sign.
- emecks0
My old boss at mm (there are a good few threads about THAT particular cunt on here too) used to have all of the "management speak" buzzwords down to a tee: "drink our own champagne" etc etc etc but had less than no clue.
For example:
He quite seriously never wrote a word of ColdFusion in his life yet wandered around the office wearing a "CFUG Edinburgh" lanyard round his neck - the chancing fuck.Not a clue about glue and pretending he was King Uhu all day long.
Here's the gormless cunt in all his glory:
- bitter at all emecks?vespa
- CFUG = ColdFusionUserGroup, but in his case:
Cunt Fucken Utterly Gormless.
emecks - not really vespa - since the fall of mm that fucker is unemployable :Demecks
- also how the devil are ye? no seen you on these shores for ages.emecks
- hey emecks - yea all good! balancing music and dezine nicely at the mo, enjoying it :)vespa
- how about you? where are you?vespa
- freelance now, more or less - hopefully more in the months to come...emecks
- Point50
boss: "lets use a classy font... something like we used in [client names]'s ad"
me: "oh, porcelain? that's not really classy, it's a grunge font. I wouldn't recommend using that font based on the direction for this particular project"
boss: "that's not a grunge font, it's cursive!"
me: "uh, it's a script that's been de-constructed into a grunge font"
boss: "well, I don't think it's a grunge font, I like it! We're going to use it"
me: "..."- that sucks man. never show anyone it!studderine
- OMG we have the same manager!monkeyshine
- roundabout0
I had one fucker who made me work 2 week ahead of the deadline to cover his sad sorry ass, after the first month I told her to fuck right offffff.
- chossy0
Leave I did when I felt like this and have never been happier.