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- valentim0
i hate the fact that a web site is never finished (whichever), it will always have room for improvment, update or any litle twist....in the other hand a book, a magazine or any other piece of printed material its finished and.
- is a design ever really finished?tank02
- yes!broxybluenose
- yes, i think so. I might have different "models" of a design but that particular "model" will have a finished point. Websites not. its a constant design experience.valentim
- web sites not.valentim
- wrong. a ci also evolves in the time that it is used and the put the test.tank02
- valentim0
Studio Dumbar also hasn´t changed for a long while
http://www.studiodumbar.com- that is some pretty nasty work.broxybluenose
- er?tank02
- nasty?valentim
- let him have his opinion. just because it is a top 3 agency you don't need to hold backvrmbr
- aes0
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http://thedigitalclub.net
- johnnnnyh0
"basically invented the industry as we know it today" - I really don't think that's quite true. I think they were important, but at the time there were loads of others who were equally if not more important like Attik, AKQA, Digit, Razorfish, Deepend, Tomato - that was a defining moment in the digital design industry.
I always saw TDR slightly out of that - more like Tomato I guess. I think it was still revolutionary, but in context, they weren't inventing the industry.
Do others see TDR as mainly a graphic(al) agency rather than digital (if I may draw the two as distinct)? They did do some interesting retro-styled digital work as I remember. I thought their website was built by someone else anyway.
- Ranger0
Saw Ian Anderson do a D&AD talk a couple of years back - dunno if that's the same one you saw Broxy. He was so arrogant - slagging off D&AD, slagging off London, I guess he has a chip on his shoulder which has served him well so far though.
Simon Pyke's video was the best thing shown.
I remember he said it was as important to him when hiring - that the disigner would fit in with them down the pub aswell as in the studio.
- when I saw him, his basic understanding of how quicktime worked shocked mebroxybluenose
- Ian's a smart man, ive had crits with him. and beers. 2 of my friends work at DR. there not dead.crayz
- he's up himself...their shitebroxybluenose
- Bluejam0
they have a new creative director
- elektromuzak0
I really loved TDR's Wipeout game... it's too bad they aren't doing anything cool anymore.
- though few probably admit it, many got into graphic design because of that game. and understandibly so. top notch.SteveJobs
- TDR/Wipeout is the reason I got into design. Not ashamed to admit it. I love TDR.selfproclaim
- Benja820
the 123klan needs to do something new with their site too
- elektromuzak0
you're right, tDR works with a developer called Kleber... check out http://www.kleber.net/. Klever developed tDR's site and bleep.com which is a site that sells mp3 electronica. I visit bleep.com often and buy tracks here and there. Not sure if bleep is associated with tDR though, but I know they designed the interface.
- seanhaus0
I saw something they did for Sheffield about a year back, it was pretty amazing.
I'm sure they do alot of stuff that we're not even aware of since that site is updated really sporadically.
- elektromuzak0
that's probably true. i suppose with their reputation, they really don't even need to advertise to the public what their current affairs are. but, i'd still like to know they are alive and well.
- Ranger0
Maybe staying quiet and mysterious is the new shameless shouting about how great you are?
(Sagmeister take note)
- crayz0
Ian Anderson is my external assessor. he seems to spend most of his time getting wrecked with my tutor. and talking to us . i think he has lost faith .
- Drno0
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- Spookytim0
I think one of the hardest things to accept is that you have your day and then, like the ocean, you roll back below. That's not to say you can't have your day again, but being on top once before doesn't qualify you to be on top again. You have to sink back below, and either wait for your style to be appreciated all over again by a new audience so you get ressurected as a grand-daddy of a genre trend, or you have to worj hard and hope that you come up with something new and exctiing one day that puts you back on top. I think this is true for all of us who actually give a fuck about our work, not just the celebrated heroes.
I personally am going through a lot of mithering bollocks trying to invent a new style and approach right now.
To some extent I think WhyNot Associates have done really weel to quietly age into a good quality set up. I would have written them off completely after the 90's.... after all, their first time on top consisted of little more than infantile Freehand pen tool scribbling and tourettian type hacking, but look at them now... they do really beautiful understated and effortlessly stylish looking work.
(I'm not dissing the old Ynots stuff BTW, at the time it was awesome, but in retrospect its quite primitive).
I reckon a lot of these design heroes must go through terrible angst and bleak-as-fuck turmoil as they watch themselves slipping from their perches at the top. It must be awful. But, you can only be the next new fresh exciting original thing until everyone has consumed it, then its the mainstream, then its some other young rapscallion's turn to present a fresh style of work. Someone who you probably employed from college three years previously.
- elektromuzak0
why not has some interesting portfolio work, but their branding + identity work is crappy in my opinion
- their motion work is shite!broxybluenose
- in fact, i'd say most of their stuff isn't very impressive.elektromuzak
- Look again. They are quietly doing some great stuff, honest. no, honestly. no? oh.Spookytim
- johnnnnyh0
Spookytim - I agree. I find design moves on so rapidly, more so than say music, so you see one style - and you like it, then that's it, it can't be copied, it can be reset, but each time you see it you know where it's come from. Like when the Guardian did the thing with their logo, and everyone was doing two colours/two fonts with typography.
If it was music you'd get a whole set of bands and you'd appreciate each one, but in design I feel it always goes back to the first person who does it.
I remember the MTV flash website which Digit(?) did and it was like wow, you can do that on the web - But I didn't want to see more of the same thing, although I did want to "feel the same" about any site I saw, as in "Wow" - which rarely happens.
Another one was Joshua Davies Barney's site - which you saw everywhere once it was clear how he'd done it.
I guess you need to keep one step ahead of the game, and not locked into your style, but keep ditching it and re-inventing yourself. Then again Cartier Bresson did pretty much the same style of images all his life and it didn't matter.
Anyway, what do I know?
I dread the angst and the bleakness, am glad it doesn't disturb me since I have no talent to lose.
- elektromuzak0
Joshua Davis seems to be pretty derivative with his work too. He definitely created a very signature style to his designs, but i'd still like to see his work evolve a bit more.
- johnnnnyh0
Yes, it's moved on from the early days but I agree that he's still producing lots of variations on a similar (but nevertheless interesting) theme. I think that happens more in art. I've seen a lot of Van Gogh's versions of sunflowers which he did before "the" one - at least I hope they were done before and not after! That would be tragic.
- Spookytim0
The whole Joshua Davis thing passed me by. I think his day on top must have been in the last five years when I didn't look at any design at all becuase I'd never herd of him until I arrived on QBN in Jan/Feb. He's held in really high esteem but to be honest when I look, I just see "tourettian vector yanking" and am not impressed. I get that he wrote a program to auto-generate those things, and well done for that, but really, once you've seen them... you've seen them.
Or am I thinking of the wrong person...?
*googles