Starting salaries for designers??
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- Jaline0
My sister is 2 years younger than me and after she recognized I am almost 21 AND in my last year of my B.A., she's like, "You're old".
Yeah...
- bcline0
dude, don't underestimate the power of student work. it may be some of the most creative you'll do. Sagmeister told me once that the work you do in the first couple of years is the work you'll be doing the rest of your life. I agree, and having a full time job can be a lot of work while you may only a expend a fraction of the creative effort you likely put into each student piece.
that said, if you want to do super dope stuff, on your own terms, freelancing aint a bad option.
Ampersanderson
(Oct 19 07, 13:57)dude you talked to sagmeister??? he is a god
- studderine0
we suck! YEA FUCK IT
- bcline0
My sister is 2 years younger than me and after she recognized I am almost 21 AND in my last year of my B.A., she's like, "You're old".
Yeah...
Jaline
(Oct 19 07, 14:00)wait where is she? i've got a weekend off ---
haha just kiddin' jaline
- bcline0
we suck! YEA FUCK IT
studderine
(Oct 19 07, 14:00)yes, i'm depressed and sad, i suck, i will now cut off my toe as a cry for help
- gramme0
Look for stuff around $40-50K that allows you to work on good projects and if you are not complacent you will be making $60-80K within a few years. I would say though that work experience is very important in this business. Without any job experience you are at a natural disadvantage, once you have at least a few years of work experience and a good portfolio you'll be able to charge more.
ukit
(Oct 19 07, 12:32)Right out of school there is no way you'll make more than 35K at a design firm, unless you're in NYC in which case you *might* be able to finagle 45–50K.
- eb60
30k
in one year
32k
- bcline0
i'm so confused, so many different opinions, well i like to design / develop to much to let salary be that much of a factor, but i just don't want to have to live off food stamps
- edd-e0
lots of things wrong here...
cinder has an excellent point...
a good time for you to earn a stronger salary is to be working, most companies want to hire working professionals. that also means people who have lower salaries... but the thing is they dontj need to know that your salary is low. dont ever be negative in an interview or at work.
also dont wait for that interview to contact you back, if you put all your efforts into 1 place you may never ever get a call back and yo uwill lose out in so much...
alwaays interview, i cant stress this point enough.. you can be in the most cushy job but you should alwaays be looking and networking, you never will be in that doorway if you are just waiting for tha t phone to ring.
make it your first effort to keep searching every avenue. maybe take a different job outside your skillsets, and just work... show to the employer you know how to not onlytake orders and solve the problem but you can do it everyday...
students who are just graduated dont have this luxury to work everyday.
so lets say you take this 30k job but you still want a higher paying salary at a storngerfirm but you made this commitment... well you have nothingto lose to keep looking and nothingto lose to change jobs.
also the new client will be more impressed you are working and make hire you over the other many graduates...
remember no job is permanent, and no salary is set in stone.
- bcline0
*69
- bcline0
lots of things wrong here...
cinder has an excellent point...
a good time for you to earn a stronger salary is to be working, most companies want to hire working professionals. that also means people who have lower salaries... but the thing is they dontj need to know that your salary is low. dont ever be negative in an interview or at work.
also dont wait for that interview to contact you back, if you put all your efforts into 1 place you may never ever get a call back and yo uwill lose out in so much...
alwaays interview, i cant stress this point enough.. you can be in the most cushy job but you should alwaays be looking and networking, you never will be in that doorway if you are just waiting for tha t phone to ring.
make it your first effort to keep searching every avenue. maybe take a different job outside your skillsets, and just work... show to the employer you know how to not onlytake orders and solve the problem but you can do it everyday...
students who are just graduated dont have this luxury to work everyday.
so lets say you take this 30k job but you still want a higher paying salary at a storngerfirm but you made this commitment... well you have nothingto lose to keep looking and nothingto lose to change jobs.
also the new client will be more impressed you are working and make hire you over the other many graduates...
remember no job is permanent, and no salary is set in stone.
edd-e
(Oct 19 07, 14:06)yeah, so far it's been just talk and i've haven't really discussed salary yet with anybody, just wanted your guy's xpert knowledge on the subject matter
- ukit0
Right out of school there is no way you'll make more than 35K at a design firm, unless you're in NYC in which case you *might* be able to finagle 45–50K.
gramme
(Oct 19 07, 14:03)I made $45K at my first job (in Seattle, interactive agency), and jumped to $60K after one year. So yes it is possible, although maybe I lucked out:)
- cinder0
actually . . .
your design skills are a little raw.
however, if you're truly good at Flash and AS3 you'll be find as a design-minded developer.
- gramme0
So yes it is possible, although maybe I lucked out:)
ukit
(Oct 19 07, 14:14)Yes, you did.
I overheard my boss recently telling a student who came in to chat that she would pay 25K for entry level.
Heh...really glad I had a few yrs experience when I got here :/
- fyoucher10
yo bcline, hit me up, .
- studderine0
dont hit up that guy his website is meatspin.com
- bcline0
yo bcline, hit me up, .
fyoucher1
(Oct 19 07, 14:31check your e-mail
- bcline0
dont hit up that guy his website is meatspin.com
studderine
(Oct 19 07, 14:33)haha... i didn't see that
- bcline0
dont hit up that guy his website is meatspin.com
studderine
(Oct 19 07, 14:33)too late
- ukit0
Holy crap I am sorry I clicked on that link.