?yearly salary: Spain?
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- Witt0
ah! lol.
that thread is a goldmine - i lost the last posts the other day as it got really late.
also - i don't live in Lisbon since 2000 - i work 200km up north. i go there mostly during the weekends but the travel sometimes puts me off it, other times i have stuff to do here and i'm visiting back less and less.
- rafalski0
Over €20K is a lot of money in Spain. Minus taxes.
- rafalski0
Ahh I see, you live in . now!
I'll have to give Portugal a closer look one day, Oporto and Lisboa weekend was so good!
- Haydesign0
But €20K is about £13k.
Thats a lot of money there???Don't get me wrong, I'd love to earn as much as that.
- Witt0
now i live between Oporto and Lisbon:
near:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=…
and:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=…woods.
- rafalski0
Lovely town!
What's the Portuguese part of the ocean temperature in Summer? Can you swim in it?
On the side.. is this mould?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/est…
- Witt0
What's the Portuguese part of the ocean temperature in Summer? Can you swim in it?
On the side.. is this mould?
www.flickr.com/photos/...
rafalski
(Aug 22 07, 07:10)the litoral of Central Pt has around 15-18ºC max in summer: it's swimable if it's not too windy. but it's not really very confortable. To me at least. You need to go further south to get a warmer swim.
and yes, that is mould from the dyed (ink?) "cal" (limestone solution). fungus.
- rafalski0
Sorry about my fungus obsession.. I've just had enough of this crap growing everywhere.. it's back on my window and I have to clean it off again!
- Witt0
nothing you can do. those anti-fungus you can add to paint never work properly in exteriors.
lovely decay, though.
- dkmb0
anyone??
- dyspl0
check designineurope.com
- OBBTKN0
Here the agencies are paying 900 for newbies > 1200 for senior designers.
If you´re a experienced guy, you can get 1500... but much more is not easy.
I do 1800 now like CD (post taxes) with a great calendar and never go home later than 17 on winter and 15 on summer.
Plus i do some freelancing job at home for extra cash.
Agency+extra payments (i´ve got 15 payments for year)+freelancing= 31k/year post taxes.
But i´m privileged, trust me, people like me hardly do more than 20k/yearly.
Here is very hard to get a rent for less of 600 and flats are very, very expensive.
I´m talking about basque country, BCN still can be more expensive, but you can get MORE work/rent offers there.
- dkmb0
thanks for the help, il need to get some more experience so i can earn more money, time to implement phase 1.
- rafalski0
Don't forget about €5-8K low interest secured bank deposit (on top of standard one month rent deposit) required by apartment owners in Madrid and BCN. Be prepared for tenant castings, usually there is a long list of people who are interested in a flat. If you're from Eastern Europe, you're not likely to be on top of it.
Also, if you register for freelance, there is an extortionist flat rate social tax of €250 no mattern if you earn something.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
- rafalski0
€250 per month that is
- wwfc0
do you mean autonomos? €234 per month!
- wwfc0
...and a rolling fine if you miss one month :(
- OBBTKN0
Yes... this is "cuota autonomos" for seguridad social, minimum 250 euros/month.
Better get this cuota for a year, minimum, and extra cash for taxes in a a bank account that you´re not going to touch for anything.
Mantain religiously 3000 euros on this account, and think only on working.
- rafalski0
This is really annoying, because what it does is promote large firms by sweeping small business from large companies' feet.
Do you still have to pay cuota autonomos if you have your regular job+freelance?
Social tax is 5% of your net earnings in Ireland (3% if you earned less than €400/week).
Similar in the UK, where it is only £2/week if you don't earn anything.Is there a way around it? Can you start a Ltd. company in a country with a more liberal economy and invoice your clients from there?
- Llyod0
spain is a great country but holy fuck they're lazy