Getty caught me
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- ********0
so if it is a bot, looking for hex patterns, simply make an impercetpable levels or curves adjustment, of up the overall brightness of any picture by one or 2 points.
- slappy0
The bots are smarter than you think. They picked up a vector trace that was based on a getty photo. Someone posted above.
- lvl_130
so if it is a bot, looking for hex patterns, simply make an impercetpable levels or curves adjustment, of up the overall brightness of any picture by one or 2 points.
mikotondria2
(Jul 31 07, 20:41)*takes note.
*quickly sends update to getty.
so, anyone else got any other 'hacks' that might elude the search bots?
- coco_ono0
so will my ass get bombed if it's for student and educational purposes?
i mean they're just comps and explorations...
hmm.
- coco
- slappy0
yes
quick, go get the flavoured lube.
- monNom0
so, anyone else got any other 'hacks' that might elude the search bots?
lvl_13
(Jul 31 07, 21:01)not stealing stock photos would probably work. =P
As for the mechanism, It probably tries to match luminance values from the file in question against the getty database at low resolution, then steps up the res if it thinks it's found a match.
I'm a bit surprised that they picked up on the vector tracing. I wouldn't doubt that they have a human component to the filtering.
Amazon had (has?) a service called Mechanical Turk that paid people to review images for stuff that algorithms couldn't easily detect. Not sure if Pictscout uses that or similar, but it would be a smart way to do it.
- tbgd0
I asked this above but it got missed.
Is it .img files they search for??? So if you've a flash movie wiht the image in then will you be OK??? You might well be.
- rafalski0
I remember hearing around 1999 that Oracle's flagship database had image recognition/comparison functions. Imagine what it can do now, when image analysis tools went as far as photosynth
http://www.ted.com/index.php/tal…
- tbgd0
Does it read the pixels on the screen then rather than the images?
- rafalski0
we don't know, tbgd, but I would assume it does both - there are plenty of screenshot apps out there so it is easily doable
- tbgd0
sh*t!! I thought we might be safe with flash. I don't suppose they are going to screenshot eeveryones website though! It would take too long... whereas trawling through someones .img files like google does would be much faster.
- Grieg0
All this talk of 'bad business' and 'relationships' is hysterical.
So now it's good business to talk up your sole proprietorship as if it's a full agency, and selling a cold call client on old comps?
Any lawyer btw would just advise you to clam up and stop broadcasting and returning calls, etc.
- e-pill0
what about the Getty images we may have used in a PSB??
*quickly moves all Getty PSB art to imgdumb.com
- mg330
Yah, could someone make sure and check the rights info on this PSB image someone purchased?
- CALLES0
Getty go caught also
- ********0
so how do rights-managed images stand up in the situation where, eg, someone has used a rm image in a huge downtown billboard, say a woman smiling, a makeup brand logo on it etc - the work is on public display - are you not allowed to take a photo of this public display and use the image thereafter ?
They cant extend the image rights to its public use..
Therefore, if you just took a photo of the image when it displayed on your computer, when it has been used in its proper rights-managed setting, it is public display, and you were using your photography of a publicly displayed object as the art. It then becomes your image.
Any thoughts ?
- play0
you just blew my mind
- mg330
I agree with play.
mikotondria2, you just opened door #2.
- SteveJobs0
i'm a bit skeptical on this picscout thing.
even the most efficient algorithm is going to take, at the very least, several seconds to do the smallest comparison. and they have hundreds of thousands of images that they are trying to protect. this would be compounded even more if they wanted to find images that had been altered via x/y shifts, rotation, altering rgb values (brightness/contrast/hsl/curves... and not to mention situations where portions of a copyrighted image was used.
we barely have good algorithms for matching control points in photo-stitching panorama apps.
and no, you cannot determine a match on luminosity.
