Atheists vs Christians
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- flagellum0
mrdobolina: I don't think there exists any "perfect" design. The Model T Ford was highly imperfect, but nevertheless designed by an intelligence. Any engineer will tell you that there are trade-offs when designing a complex system.
Design doesn't have to be perfect to be designed.
- TheBlueOne0
To have arguments like this is trying to argue if unicorns and lepraucans exist.
morilla
(May 10 07, 11:07)Woah...wait a minute..you saying Leprachauns ain't real??
- gramme0
yeah yeah, and having faith makes all the answers that much easier..
god made it! god made everything!
BonSeff
(May 10 07, 11:03)At least Creationism provides us with an answer that makes sense, basically the premise that everything CAME FROM something. That there is a person/entity/however you name it, that has always been and generated everthing that exists, regardless of whether you think it took 8,000 or 800 billion years for everything to develop up to this point.
- flagellum0
Bonseff: because it cannot be proven that God does not exist. Put simply.
- BonSeff0
whatever quells the fear of dying alone
- flagellum0
Good point, gramme. Time is not the issue. The issue is first causes. At the end of the day, it requires more faith to believe that all matter and energy sprang into existance from nothing.
- BonSeff0
i know flagellum, i get it. that's a hillarious premise
- ********0
If everything has a creator... who created god? I don't understand why he is the exception to that "rule".
- flagellum0
I have no fear of dying. I'm interested in knowing if there's a purpose for my human existance.
- TheBlueOne0
At least Creationism provides us with an answer that makes sense, basically the premise that everything CAME FROM something.
gramme
(May 10 07, 11:13)What if I'm totally cool with being uncertain about where It all Came From? I mean, it doesn't bother me at all and I find in fact more "spiritual" that maybe we are a random, lucky, happy accident of the universe and maybe I really should be enjoying my sunny days, enjoying my time with family and friends, enjoying that fine Belgian Ale, etc. more than I should considering exactly that fact.
- mrdobolina0
At least Creationism provides us with an answer that makes sense, basically the premise that everything CAME FROM something. That there is a person/entity/howeve r you name it, that has always been and generated everthing that exists, regardless of whether you think it took 8,000 or 800 billion years for everything to develop up to this point.
gramme
(May 10 07, 11:13)Nah it gives christians power to tell people how to live, that is what it is for.
- flagellum0
Antonelli: Who says God must have a life span with an origin point and an ending point, like we do? If he exists outside of time and space and entropy, then his nature doesn't require such finite things.
- mrdobolina0
Antonelli: Who says God must have a life span with an origin point and an ending point, like we do? If he exists outside of time and space and entropy, then his nature doesn't require such finite things.
flagellum
(May 10 07, 11:18)Do not talk all sciencey and then spit this crap too, kid.
- Ramanisky20
"I would rather burn in hell
than be in heaven with a megalomaniac"- Redhead with Big Tits
- ********0
the swerve said lucretius
the swive said Lord Rochester
- flagellum0
lets try and follow mrdobolinas impeccable logic:
Acknowledging that the evidence suggests a higher intelligence which created all matter and energy, as opposed to springing out of nothingness, means that Christians want to control how people live.
Brilliant.
- flagellum0
i'm speaking logically, mrdobolina. Try to keep up.
- mrdobolina0
It is early government, dude and you know it is.
Why can't the jews eat pork? trichinosis.
Why shouldn't catholics eat meat on fridays? conservation.
get your head out of your ass.
- BonSeff0
how can you prove that billions of years of evolving earth and sky are not a happy accident? i don't understand how this logic can be out of the question..
- ********0