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- madirish0
i have heard many, Many a tuner ask why someone would want a HAMANN 599- so many things to go wrong (especially body paneling) and just another 'specialist' one must take it to for servicing. ha!- you think those tires are fresh on it? ;)
re: the DBS- there is a guy here in town who has one and i know of 2 in california....... basically i can close my eyes and for a fleeting second i think it is not an english car..... but then i come awake. ;)
- ********0
oh look.
a thread full of men with small penises.
- vwsung18t0
i really like the DBS. I haven't really liked Astons since the DB5s. i would choose it over a 911 turbo but not a GT3.
- jox0
i have heard many, Many a tuner ask why someone would want a HAMANN 599- so many things to go wrong (especially body paneling) and just another 'specialist' one must take it to for servicing. ha!- you think those tires are fresh on it? ;)
madirish
(Aug 31 07, 04:55)x2. While the 599 HAMANN is the LEAST hideous of their creations up until today, it is still absolutely gross compared to the stock beauty.
I have no opinion on the DBS - I am usually not a big fan of british cars and their ingredients in sports/super cars - "Flat" engine to drive, horrible suspension (TVR-ish) but nice sound, gearbox and decent brakes. That just isn't enough for me.
Perhaps a test drive will tell me otherwise, but they have quite the competiton right now. Ain't gonna be easy...
- ********0
style wise I like the V8 Vantage much better than the DBS
much smoother line and curves
- madirish0
the coach work on the AM's has always been pretty top-notch, but the cars have never been crazy to me. but i am with designerror on this one- Vantage over DB anyday....
- ********0
this must bring back some memories to a certain swede in here.
- ********0
Skip to the middle:
Bless you Teagues.
- jox0
Let's all take a moment and discuss a very interesting and powerful topic in the automotive world. Something Madirish and I both find ridiculously interesting. Something that was brought upon us nearly 20 years ago and is still -today- absolutely killer-looking.
I am talking about the Audi Avus wheel design and its progress over the years.
What started out on this concept car in 1991
...was later made in 16", 17", and 18" - nearly identical to the concept car's wheels for the UrS4, UrS6 and pre 99B S8s
After a model facelift and new model intros (99B B5 S4, D2 S8, C5 S6, S3) the Avus wheel design was slightly altered, the spokes became narrower and the design became flatter. Some like it better, some don't.
And so in 2003, with the introduction of the B6 S4, the current generation Avus wheel was introduced. More masculine and powerful spokes were designed, and even today on the B7 S4, these wheels are on.
A few questions do arise however. The S3, S6 and S8 was still being produced one year after the current Avus design was introduced - why weren't they given these wheels? Why were they still running on Avus mk 2 wheels when the predecessor, the mk 3 Avus, was available? Were they too cheap to manufacture properly ET:ed wheels for the entire S range so they decided to go with the old design? They did make the mk 2 Avus wheels in two different bolt patterns (5x112 for all cars except the S3s 5x100), so why couldn't they introduce the mk 3 on the entire range?
And more importantly, which is the better looking one?
So many questions, so little time...
- Llyod0
looks rather pedestrian
- OBBTKN0
Volvo Amazon:
600 CV!!
- ********0
That Amazon is pretty nice, me and my bro had one many years ago
- vwsung18t0
Let's all take a moment and discuss a very interesting and powerful topic in the automotive world. Something Madirish and I both find ridiculously interesting. Something that was brought upon us nearly 20 years ago and is still -today- absolutely killer-looking.
I am talking about the Audi Avus wheel design and its progress over the years.
What started out on this concept car in 1991
www.audi.at/de/seiten/... [jpg]...was later made in 16", 17", and 18" - nearly identical to the concept car's wheels for the UrS4, UrS6 and pre 99B S8s
www.wheelcollision.com... [jpg]After a model facelift and new model intros (99B B5 S4, D2 S8, C5 S6, S3) the Avus wheel design was slightly altered, the spokes became narrower and the design became flatter. Some like it better, some don't.
www.elektro.com/~audi/... [jpg]And so in 2003, with the introduction of the B6 S4, the current generation Avus wheel was introduced. More masculine and powerful spokes were designed, and even today on the B7 S4, these wheels are on.
www.finishlinewheels.c... [jpg]A few questions do arise however. The S3, S6 and S8 was still being produced one year after the current Avus design was introduced - why weren't they given these wheels? Why were they still running on Avus mk 2 wheels when the predecessor, the mk 3 Avus, was available? Were they too cheap to manufacture properly ET:ed wheels for the entire S range so they decided to go with the old design? They did make the mk 2 Avus wheels in two different bolt patterns (5x112 for all cars except the S3s 5x100), so why couldn't they introduce the mk 3 on the entire range?
And more importantly, which is the better looking one?
So many questions, so little time...
jox
(Sep 2 07, 11:26)avus good.
- waynepixel0
One of the best looking alloy wheels of all time has to be BBS LM.
- jox0
x2 Wayne.
- madirish0
waynepixel- goes without saying... ;) and a bit moreso; the BBS LM *forged* is the best one they ever made. the now-cheaper-made cast are great looking, but *much* weaker.
jox raises one of the best discussions, possibly ever, of a VAG design here. i *love* the AVUS wheels- have a set myself. they are distinct, timeless, and durable as hell. now, the mkII to mkIII is an interesting evolution and design application indeed. to talk to the change point directly- i believe the reason the cars did not get the mkII is due to production cost of the rims.
during the UrS3, 4, 6 and optional D1 S8 eras, the AVUS rims were all made by Ronal and were forged, not cast. this was an awesome feature and one highly overlooked by many people. they were dropped by some owners as they were heavier than many other forged wheels, thus giving better suspension tuning options w/ a lighter corner weight, but the lifespan of the spec AVUS was/is killer.
the early 5 spoke rims on UrS4 were also forged (as were orginal spec 15" 20 spoke SpQ magnesium rims, but that is another discussion ;) but ran aground quick w/ intro of AVUS design. these actually have the same design on Cabriolet rims, but those are cast, not forged.
back to AVUS though- they are indeed timeless, the new B6, 7 issued versions are not my cup of tea, and moreso as they are cast and painted with non-metalic paint (as opposed to being temper-painted metallic on mkII rims).
- czawada0
Someone buy my 1961 Land Rover 109 IIa.
- vwsung18t0
old land rovers are cool
- ********0
oh shit, I love love to get my hands on that old 109. Shame on you for selling it!!!