vegetarian? vegan?

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  • mikotondria30

    Dude, you can't post with broad statements you've overheard in a pub somewhere about there being 'things in meat that are easier to absorb than in veggies', then claim to have studied it somewhat at school, only to then say that you're not an encyclopedia when someone genuinely wants to know what it was you thought you knew..
    Just look it up in wikipedia or something, you'll save just a tiny bit of face if you do..

  • CALLES0

    so you eat meat every now and then vector?

  • CALLES0

    woah... some angry and pale vegetarians around here...

    kidding!

  • sadpanda0

    You're so special vector

  • designbot0

    I think for most people it would be better to invest your time/energy into eating mostly organic and staying away from highly processed foods. If you go vegetarian/vegan you really have to be diligent in making sure your diet is appropriately adjusted, otherwise you could end up worse off.

    I started doing a bit of research myself and was amazed to find out about the harmful ingredients that seem to be in everything we eat. My wife and I have been slowly purging our cupboards of all the crap that we once ate and replacing it with food that is actually healthy and not harmful. I have been most amazed to find out how much better everything tastes, so it's a win-win imo.

    • so to summarize, my wife and I are slowly becoming hippies :)designbot
    • it doesnt, doenst it !. We have been slowly changing everything, I eat organic spinach on everything nowmikotondria3
    • you don't think it tastes better?designbot
    • God bless your wifeBLKWRLD
    • :)designbot
  • BLKWRLD0

    All you have to do is examine a group of 10 people who eat no meat at all.
    Then examine 10 people who eat meat in abundance.

    By examining these two 'opposites', are reasonable dialectical conclusion can be afforded.

    Personally, I believe that the people who don't eat meat are doing something right, as it is quite apparent.

    • *A reasonable dialectical conclusion...BLKWRLD
    • what about the moderate meat eaters or are you just going to pull from the opposite sides of the spectrumkona
    • and make a broad assumption. hell, you might as well pull your 10 from 10 fat italian meat eaters andkona
    • base your opinion. a rocket scientist could tell you the 10 people who eat leaves are healthier. it's skewed data.kona
  • sadpanda0

    suck it miko

    • if i were you miko i would... check out her picsture in the profile!CALLES
  • sureshot0

    I like meat.

  • VectorMasked0

    I eat meat now. Just had a burger yesterday. Juicy. Meat, well done. Came with shitloads of awesome home made fries.

    My lifestyle was basically screwed up due to the lack of options when eating out. :o(

    Even now that I eat meet. i do not drink milk nor eat eggs coz they are both nasty, disgusting and illogical. If I get bread or cheese, I get soy cheese, organic stuff and shit like that.

    And just wanna point out that if I get invited to a bbq, I show up 2 hours early with beers and shit. Can't resist them.

  • CALLES0

    i eat only raw green in the week and on the weekend anything goes... along with my only beer diet

  • VectorMasked0

    If I were ever invited to one of Calles' world famous BBQs, Id' bring a tent and shit and camp outside two days early.

    • and dont forget condoms. unless you are marriedCALLES
    • I don't think that'd matter for a latin fella like me ;o)VectorMasked
  • Antonelli0

    going out for lunch soon. going to have chicken. a whole, live, feathered one. could get messy. we'll see.

    • woops, this should've been in the blog thread.Antonelli
  • sadpanda0

    Here ya go:

    essential amino acids - the essential amino acids include: isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan and valine. Histidine is considered as essential for children, while arginine is needed by adults suffering from liver disease [Ronzio].

    alanine (L-alanine) - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C3H7NO2. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in dairy products, fish, meat and poultry.

    arginine (L-arginine) - this amino acid is considered as essential for adults suffering from liver disease. It has the formula C6H14N4O2. It is not produced by the body of adults suffering from liver disease and must be extracted from food. It is found naturally in fish, meat, nuts and poultry.

    asparagine (L-asparagine) - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C4H8N2O3. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in dairy products, fish, meat and poultry and in some plant foods.

    aspartic acid (L-aspartic acid) - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C4H7NO4. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in eggs, fish, meat and poultry and in some plant foods, such as soybeans, sugar beets and sugar cane.

    cysteine (L-cysteine) - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C3H7NO2S. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in almonds, eggs, fenugreek seeds, fish, garlic, onions, peanuts, poultry, soybeans, torula yeast and yogurt.

    glutamic acid (L-glutamic acid) (glutamate) - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C5H9NO4. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in many plant and animal tissues. The monosodium salt of glutamic acid is monosodium glutamate (MSG). Monosodium glutamate is found in seaweed, soybeans and sugar beets. It has been used as a flavoring. Note: some people are highly sensitive to monosodium glutamate and develop headaches and numbness after ingesting it.

    glutamine (L-glutamine) - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C5H10N2O3. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in milk and whole grains.

    glycine - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is the smallest and is the most simple in structure. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C2H5NO2. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in both plant and animal proteins.

    histidine (L-histidine) - this amino acid is considered as essential for children. a crystalline compound with the formula C6H9N3O2. It is not produced by the body in children and must be extracted from food. It is found naturally in cheese, fish, meat, peanuts, poultry, soybeans and torula yeast.

    isoleucine (L-isoleucine) - one of the essential amino acids. This is a crystalline compound with the formula C6H13NO2. It is not produced by the body and must be extracted from food. It is found naturally in cheese, fenugreek seeds, fish, nuts, poultry, seeds, soybeans, spirulina and torula yeast.

    leucine (L-leucine) - one of the essential amino acids - a crystalline compound with the formula C6H13NO2. It is not produced by the body and must be extracted from food. It is found naturally in dairy products, meat, oats, peanuts, poultry, soybean, spirulina and torula yeast

    lysine (L-lysine) - one of the essential amino acids - a crystalline compound with the formula C6H14N2O2. It is not produced by the body and must be extracted from food. It is found naturally in dairy products, fenugreek seeds, fish, meat, peanuts, soybean, yeast.

    methionine (L-methionine) - one of the essential amino acids - a crystalline compound with the formula C5H11NO2S. It is not produced by the body and must be extracted from food. It is found naturally in beans, fish, garlic, meat, milk, onions, poultry, sesame seeds, soybeans and torula yeast.

    phenylalanine (L-phenylalanine) - one of the essential amino acids - a crystalline compound with the formula C9H11NO2. It is not produced by the body and must be extracted from food. It is found naturally in dairy products, fish, meat, peanuts, poultry, soybeans and torula yeast.

    proline (L-proline) - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C5H9NO2. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in dairy products.

    serine (L-serine) - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C3H7NO3. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in dairy products, meat, peanuts and soybeans.

    taurine - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C2H7NO3S. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in fish, meat and milk.

    threonine (L-threonine) - one of the essential amino acids. This is a crystalline compound with the formula C4H9NO3. It is not produced by the body and must be extracted from food. It is found naturally in dairy products, fenugreek seeds, fish, meat, poultry, soybeans, spirulina and nutritional yeast.

    tryptophan (L-tryptophan) - one of the essential amino acids. This is a crystalline compound with the formula C11H12N2O2. It is not produced by the body and must be extracted from food. It is found naturally in bananas, eggs, fenugreek seeds, milk, nutritional yeast, poultry, soybeans, spirulina, and yogurt. Note: this compound has been recalled by the FDA as a stand-alone nutritional supplement in 1989 [Ronzio]. Some people experienced very toxic reactions after ingesting tryptophan. In doses of one gram/day (1,000 milligrams/day) it may be toxic to the liver in sensitive individuals [Ronzio]. Extreme caution is advised.

    tyrosine (L-tyrosine) - this is an non-essential amino acid. It is a crystalline compound with the formula C9H11NO3. It is produced by the body from other compounds. It is found naturally in cheese, milk, peanuts, soybeans, spirulina and torula yeast.

    valine (L-valine) - one of the essential amino acids. This is a crystalline compound with the formula C5H11NO2. It is not produced by the body and must be extracted from food. It is found naturally in dairy products, grains, meat, peanuts, pumpkin seeds, soybeans, spirulina and torula yeast.

    • shit! don't pollute the thread dude. it breaks the flow of the conversations. post alink or somethingVectorMasked
  • VectorMasked0

    Tried the raw veggie thing and that shit is awesome. Shitloads of energy. It's like walking all day with the hardest boner people had ever seen!

  • mikotondria30

    thank you, thats great - just one thing springs to mind, and thats that recent research has led scientists to conclude that an elevated level of homocysteine in the blood is a central risk factor associated with Alzheimer’s disease.
    Methionine and homocysteine have both been proved to be hazardous to human health in high doses. Methionine is found in many of the foods that Americans eat, but animal proteins can contain up to two to three times more methionine than plant proteins. Homocysteine is formed naturally in the human liver after ingesting methionine. Recently, investigators at Boston University found that elevated levels of homocysteine are associated with an increased risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease. This may be because of the fact that high homocysteine levels make nerve cells weak and prone to premature death.

    Since animal proteins contain greater amounts of methionine than plant proteins, eating meat can raise homocysteine levels and increase the risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease. Dairy products, particularly cheese products, also contain high levels of methionine. Consequently, eating meat or consuming dairy products creates a methionine-rich and, consequently, homocysteine-rich environment, dramatically increasing the risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease.

  • sadpanda0

    i'm sure you could find contradicting information concerning those subjects. Some people are more prone to Alzheimer's than others.

  • Mal0

    I'm having Duck tonight.

  • sadpanda0

    My fave

    • 5 spice duck is heaven on Earth
      Sorry Donald, & Daffy
      Mal
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      sadpanda
  • lowimpakt0

    The classic evolution from proud certainty, to arrogance, to vagueness, to total stupidity as displayed by a sadpanda in the space of 10 minutes

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    Meat is good for you, our bodies absorb nutrients from animal products easier than vegetable products because we ARE animals ourselves.

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    No, YOU are wrong. I wasn't talking about it being difficult to digest you idiot. Try reading before you type. I was saying that the body ABSORBS nutrients better if it comes from meat. There are more nutrients that are natural in meat that cannot ever come from veggies.

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    Do you actually want specific types of amino acids that come in meat form? what i'm telling you about absorption is something I learned in school. But its not like i'm saying that you should only eat meat.
    What I am saying is that a little bit of meat is super good for you. meat is filled with amino acids that you just can't get through veggies or supplements in the same way. And also, veggies accompanied with meat compliments each other's amino acid deficits.

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    apparently none of you have ever taken a nutrition class. good luck.

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    I don't have those answers. I'm not an encyclopedia.

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    You're so special vector
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    suck it miko
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    LARGE COPY AND PASTE
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    i'm sure you could find contradicting information concerning those subjects. Some people are more prone to Alzheimer's than others.

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    My fave

  • scarabin_net0

    you guys are really arguing about whether a little meat in your diet is good or not?

    who fucking cares? eat what you like. some people eat dirt ffs