football question?
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- kelpie0
ou mean club teams there, right?
- kezza_20
and internationally
- kelpie0
hen surely England or Spain would need to be replaced by say, um, France perchance? - a team which has won something in the last 30 years. Spain can especially get tae, they are shite, the scandos do well considering they don't have the resources of the big places right enough, but so do the Czechs for example.
In terms of international success you are looking at Germany, Italy and France everybody else is a long way behind
- valentim0
I dont argue that! I am not stupid, neither footbal bias blind twat! I was trying to get to a completely different point...its lost now... I wish you luck and to everything you support fella!
- kelpie0
I see Valentim's point, btw, I'm far more impressed by a smaall country who can produce a steady stream of good players than I am by one of the big guns - they throw so much money at so many prospects somethings bound to stick.
Holland are the most consistently impressive return for your buck in european football by a damn long way.
- kezza_20
No French team has won the CL. Save Marsaille but they were stripped right?
- kezza_20
I'd say what was Yugoslavia knocked out some blinders.
- kelpie0
eh....
World Cup?
European Championship?
Man U and Liverpools success in that competition is great, especially for people eho like their football a bit less dainty than the continental stuff, but the amount of money these teams get from Sky negates a lot of the achievement in my mind.
- valentim0
Listen a good example: spanish league, right! Best league, agree? Spanish national team, they suck, and in my opinion not because they dont have players!
Conclusion: ???????
- brtman0
Man U: Van der Sar
Chelsea: Robben
Arsenal: Van Persie
Liverpool: Kuyt, Zenden
Barcelona: Gio
Real Madrid: Ruud Van
AC Milan: Seedorf
Bayern Munich: Makaay
- kelpie0
Conclusion: ???????
valentim
(Oct 9 06, 06:57)they're pish and most of their best players don't even support the team!
- valentim0
Do they all come from Ajax?
- jamble0
Do they all come from Ajax?
valentim
(Oct 9 06, 07:04)Nope.
- brtman0
no, not all. PSV and Feyenoord get their share as well.
but this was just a selection from some of the top clubs. could name a lot of foreign players who started their career in nl as well.