tableless design
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- jakeyj0
i (thankfully) started designing sites after css had started to take hold. i couldn't make a site via tables I don't think.
- Gordy220
It's tough in the work place tho' - we've so many old, sh!t, legacy sites in my company I have use them / work with them all the time.
*shudder*
- seed0
Here is a good link for you:
- ldww0
(cue for timeline graphic to be posted)
- UndoUndo0
google yr question
- seed0
"Certain non-standard layouts still call for tables."
I don't think I agree with this. Can you give an example?
- northern0
In my view it's all about clean code, separating content from display and utilising HTML markup tags for their correct use.
It helps with accessibility, it helps with search engines and it help you, as all your code is clean and managable.
All these table problems came from the old school when we were trying to do things with HTML that it wasn't designed to do, or that the browsers could render. The fall out now is that the tools are there and we just have to use them properly this time.
- valentim0
so, ok if we talk about zidane, argue about war or reveal our sexual experiences, then I´ll get a straight answeer...anything relevant to Newstoday...i´ll get shit...cheers!
- Clear0
‘cus tables break up the flow of the content of your site.
With CSS you're now separating the actual content from the design. This allows you to be much more accessible to many more people. For example you have copy on a webpage but you can use multiple CSS files attached to the page. One for web, one for print, and one for mobile.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: it gets rid of those stupid spacer gif's everyone used to use.
- jevad0
Personally - I couldn't give a shit how a site is coded - if it works on all the browsers I use proplery, loads fast, and doesn't break - I don't see a problem.
Nothing winds me up more than the standards nazis coming down on a nice looking website because it uses tables for the layout...
- paraselene0
don't take it personally, valentim. it's just that we've talked about this here soooooo many times already.
read some of the information on the w3c site about accessibility. using tables where you're not trying to organise tabular data is bad for the same reason that text as image is bad - it's not standards compliant and it's not accessible.
knowing is half the battle!
- UndoUndo0
mate I done mean to be funny but if you google it you will get millions of results
- valentim0
i know man, its cool, the point was to get a bit of a discussion about the subject!
- kelpie0
and if you're one of the folks what dont appreciate accesability as a reason, think about this - if you properly separate all your actual content from teh way you present it (with css) then in 6 months time when your clients wife is bored with your design, its far far easier to just change the stylesheet and get a completely new site out of it.
- elahon0
I've completely adopted tableless design, and can't imagine going back.
Gooood shit.
- weestu0
some good resources here: http://www.alvit.de/handbook/#us…