tableless design
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- valentim
right...so now I can hear a lot of fellas talking about design without tables, all arround and and stuff, like layers(?) so, I ask, what is the point behind this? benefits? and whats wrong with tables to start with?
- ldww0
(cue for timeline graphic to be posted)
- UndoUndo0
google yr question
- valentim0
so, ok if we talk about zidane, argue about war or reveal our sexual experiences, then I´ll get a straight answeer...anything relevant to Newstoday...i´ll get shit...cheers!
- Clear0
‘cus tables break up the flow of the content of your site.
With CSS you're now separating the actual content from the design. This allows you to be much more accessible to many more people. For example you have copy on a webpage but you can use multiple CSS files attached to the page. One for web, one for print, and one for mobile.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: it gets rid of those stupid spacer gif's everyone used to use.
- paraselene0
don't take it personally, valentim. it's just that we've talked about this here soooooo many times already.
read some of the information on the w3c site about accessibility. using tables where you're not trying to organise tabular data is bad for the same reason that text as image is bad - it's not standards compliant and it's not accessible.
knowing is half the battle!
- UndoUndo0
mate I done mean to be funny but if you google it you will get millions of results
- valentim0
i know man, its cool, the point was to get a bit of a discussion about the subject!
- kelpie0
and if you're one of the folks what dont appreciate accesability as a reason, think about this - if you properly separate all your actual content from teh way you present it (with css) then in 6 months time when your clients wife is bored with your design, its far far easier to just change the stylesheet and get a completely new site out of it.
- elahon0
I've completely adopted tableless design, and can't imagine going back.
Gooood shit.
- weestu0
some good resources here: http://www.alvit.de/handbook/#us…
- Gordy220
Also, read the following:
http://www.soxiam.com/
http://www.alistapart.com/
http://www.thinkvitamin.com/All pretty handy when delving into CSS layouts for the first time.
Also search on del.icio.us.
- moth0
i tried tableless design but I got really uncomfortable on the floor.
- Gordy220
Go home moth.
- moth0
..sorry
- valentim0
starting to make sense
- jakeyj0
i (thankfully) started designing sites after css had started to take hold. i couldn't make a site via tables I don't think.
- Gordy220
It's tough in the work place tho' - we've so many old, sh!t, legacy sites in my company I have use them / work with them all the time.
*shudder*
- seed0
Here is a good link for you: