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- spl33nidoru0
no offense but i don't really get why you're asking for people's opinion or input on that... so you can tell what's wrong to the guy tomorrow ?
either you know it sucks (which it does unless it's 1995 where you are) and it's pretty obvious why, either you're not really sure and then you should worry about your own skills, no ?
Don't mean to bash, i just find the question really weird. It's like you were showing dog poop and asking how to improve it, i'm not sure what i'd think of you..
- joyride0
the icons... ehhh I don't tend to use just icons for navigation. Mystery navigation as jacob calls it. Move the nav to the top under the black header, then the page can stretch down so the user does not have to scroll to read the text.
You can put a different footer at the bottom to ground the page. But having the user scroll for simple page content is not a good idea. Poor use of space IMO
- nosaj0
I think the problem is this is being desinged and developed at the same time.
Seperate the 2.
Have you designer create Photoshop files of a couple of complete pages. Work out the PS files until you are happy with the look and proposed functionality. Then move to the development phase. Have your programmer create the actual site using the PS files as a strick guide. Don't revise the designs after you have started development and don't develop until you are 100% with the designs.
You'll save yourself alot of time, money, and frustration this way.
Good Luck.
- spl33nidoru0
just give him some FUCKING CONSTRUCTIVE HELP PLEASE
jevad
(Jul 6 06, 15:07)o___O
why don't you start ?
- mrpt0
I would attack the content first. Figure out what exaclty you want on your site, and what goes on each page, etc. That will help you guys out in coming up with a better design.
- smltom0
I appreciate all of your comments. Harsh as they may be it helps. This is a new relationship between our designer and the developer. Your comments have cemented my stance for tomorrow's meeting and I look forward to posting a site that I am happy with and look forward to a gentler bashing at that time. I wouldn't have posted here if i was going to be offended. Thanks again.
- ********0
I appreciate all of your comments. Harsh as they may be it helps. This is a new relationship between our designer and the developer. Your comments have cemented my stance for tomorrow's meeting and I look forward to posting a site that I am happy with and look forward to a gentler bashing at that time. I wouldn't have posted here if i was going to be offended. Thanks again.
smltom
(Jul 6 06, 15:23)ouch! someone's gonna get burned tomorrow!!
- smltom0
Nobody is getting burned, trust me.
- Point50
You know, jevad has a point. Maybe we should get back on track with some constuctive criticism as opposed to the harsh frat boy at the bar attitude that a lot of us NTers have developed. jox opened my eyes to this the other day. I love this place because of the people that have made it what it is, but it has also evolved beyond the design/friedship forum that it once was. I know I've only been here for about 2 years (2.5 if you count the lurking), but I have seen the change; and most of it isn't all positive.
smlton, take some time to look around the web. Check out the links in the PBS and NTB; there's some good shit in there. Don't be so concerned with the flash and code, but a really solid, current design. If you guys do print, start there and see how you can possibly integrate that style into functionality that the web designer is laying out for you. Research, develop, revise.
- smltom0
Thanks Point5, pretty aware of what is out there but unfamiliar how to execute it. I think Jevad was being sarcastic but I respect his opinions. As long as you are not here looking for accolades I think it is a good forum. If your work is crap, fix it.
- Point50
you've nailed it smlton. And believe me, jevad wasn't being sarcastic :O
I only mention this because not everyone has thick skin (which I believe is a must if you're in the design field)... and I can imagine how frustrating it can be to get 20 smartass answers before getting one serious answer.
- ********0
Thanks Point5, pretty aware of what is out there but unfamiliar how to execute it. I think Jevad was being sarcastic but I respect his opinions. As long as you are not here looking for accolades I think it is a good forum. If your work is crap, fix it.
smltom
(Jul 6 06, 15:54)great attitude, smltom!
hope to see you post here more often.
- smltom0
Wow, a positive resonse. Crouwel: I enjoy your posts, responces and work!
- ********0
I thought my post was constructive
- ********0
Wow, a positive resonse. Crouwel: I enjoy your posts, responces and work!
smltom
(Jul 6 06, 16:11)thx mate! goodluck with the site and keep posting here..
- ukit0
I think there's a couple things you gotta think about here: layout and presentation. Layout-wise, this site isn't really doing its job. Housing the content in a scrollable iframe is, IMHO, a bad choice. It makes the content hard to read, and it's such a simple site, an iframe really isn't neccessary. Keep the content in the main document and let the page be as long as it needs to be to house that content. The other main issue is with the nav. As mentioned by others, icons are a bad choice in this case. It's probably better to use icons accompanied by text, or, better yet, just use text. Also, it makes no sense to have the nav be at the bottom of the page where it's least accessible. Consider integrating it into the header or as a sidebar.
Now, presentation-wise, as others have mentioned, I think there is also a lot to work on. The identity is very generic and understated, almost like you are an industrial manufacturer or something. Rethink what your company is and stands for. Pay more attention to the formatting of your type and try to incorporate some better imagery. But solve the basic layout problems and you'll have a solid framework to build from.
- smltom0
Thanks ukit: The scrolling issue is being dealt with. I think the icons will be more acceptable once the flash is integrated. We are trying to present a "generic image" : small, medium, large. The formatting and imagery is not there yet.
- neue75_bold0
chin up, mate!
- blaw0
this may have been said, but did you consider farming the job out to someone that specializes in web design/development?
- chunkified0
i'm going to bed now