american visa?
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- bulletfactory0
Visa: It's everwhere you want to be™
- kelpie0
yup - though the real beef may have been with him blatantly telling porkys all over his visa forms, then totaly not having one the 2nd time :/
(pssst, bit of a tool)
kelpie
(Feb 2 06, 06:24)Hmmm, I lied about my criminal record on entering the states last time thinking they wouldn't check. They obviously didn't, although I was just going for a holiday.
sktII
(Feb 2 06, 06:27)yeah my pal just seemed to have the shittiest of shitty luck around that time. The reason he wanted to live there was that he had met a girl from Georgia who was on a schooltrip in our home town and got her pregnant. She went home , found this out, decided to have an abortion and wrote him a really evil letter about it made him feel like the devil. Then he heard she hadn't gotten the kid aborted after all and was going to find her etc etc.
sad story. never got over. all because of one evening worth of buckets.
:'(
- ********0
obviously, immigration lawyers are the right way to go, but that doesn't mean you can't test the waters in terms of what I advised. The right employer will hook you up. I don't recall anyone I know being deported. The INS has got bigger fish to fry.
- ********0
i really don't think you know what you're talking about.
paraselene
(Feb 2 06, 06:24)tell that to the 10 or so programmers and designers I've worked, in NYC, Pittsburgh and DC with over the past 7 years from all over the world and yep you guessed it, the majority of whom started with no work permits or were in the process of applying for one. You guys assume to much. It's worth risking if you want it bad enough.
- sktII0
sad story. never got over. all because of one evening worth of buckets.
:'(
kelpie
(Feb 2 06, 06:33)the road to hell is paved with buckets.
- kelpie0
sad story. never got over. all because of one evening worth of buckets.
:'(
kelpie
(Feb 2 06, 06:33)the road to hell is paved with buckets.
sktII
(Feb 2 06, 06:42)I know my friend. I know.
- madirish0
JazX, there is no such thing as 'INS' anymore, it is "USCIS". this is a result of the crazy, terannical US Patriot Act. the sector now does (and has MUCH more power) that the INS ever did. when was the last time you spoke w/ your "INS lawyer friend?
as having a significant other who is a lawyer specializing in immigration and asylum cases in the US, i can say that from direct experience in her work that to take this advise of "chancing it" is one of the worst ideas one could ever do. the punishment of these violations is pretty much what para and others have spelled out, but can run much deeper- and with much more international severity in that persons home country.
i am not trying to pick a fight here and think you have the right to own opinions of course, but to offer this as a clear and forthright option w/o any sort of consideration is nuts. i know the guy trying to find his way to SF is not taking it up directly, but this is serious fire that has reaches beyond your interaction w/ a dozen developers could really know. i respect your situation of similar in Finland, but that was clearly a different time (counting in bush years) and w/ a directional immigration policy between far different countries.
- paraselene0
ta, madirish. hey, i sent you a mail.
- ********0
well you're probably right it is USCIS now. My INS friend, it was about, hmmm 3.5 years ago or so. I was generalizing about the Gov and yes it probably is more difficult these days since Bushie implemented tighter laws. Of course, I'm not saying it's a entirely a bad idea to go the legal way, just gonna' take longer and that there are other options and I know of people that have went that way. You think everything that happens in the US is legal?
- Melvetica0
I'm Scottish, and tried to move to SF about 7 years ago when Pentagram SF was interested in me. Even they couldn't get me a VISA into the states. I was living in Canada at the time, and the only suggestions an immigration lawyer could give me is to get Canadian citizenship first then try for a visa or work in the London office of Pentagram for a couple of years and get a transfer. Stayed in Canada instead.