Muslims/Followers of Islam
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- ********0
Ignore by Country would be a great feature QBN.
- jno0
Ignore by Country would be a great feature QBN.
determinedmoth
(Feb 3 06, 06:51)
- ********0
wait a cotton-pickin minute, this site is US and Dutch?
ha hahaaa
- kelpie0
Ignore by Country would be a great feature QBN.
cactus
(Feb 3 06, 06:51)garretwest
(Feb 3 06, 06:52)now now lads, be even handed. ;)
- mrdobolina0
JazX, I tried to post about the Taliban blowing up the buddhas on newstoday, but the fact that it happened 5 years ago prevented me from doing so.
- ********0
it's still relevant on a certain level.
one religious faction tearing apart another religions sacred artifacts.
of course a cartoon is much more serious though.
*cough
- flagellum0
With Mohammed you have a long list of "holy wars". The people who were conquered in these battles were given three choices: accept Islam, pay tribute, or die by the sword (see the Repentance Surat, verse 29). I can't help but observe that some of the militant Islamic groups are simply following an example set by their religion's founder.
- Cactus0
Ignore by Country would be a great feature QBN.
cactus
(Feb 3 06, 06:51)garretwest
(Feb 3 06, 06:52)now now lads, be even handed. ;)
kelpie
(Feb 3 06, 06:53)How cozy. Then you could all agree with each other in your own tiny echo chamber.
So reassuring and complaisant.
Classic
- ********0
With Mohammed you have a long list of "holy wars". The people who were conquered in these battles were given three choices: accept Islam, pay tribute, or die by the sword (see the Repentance Surat, verse 29). I can't help but observe that some of the militant Islamic groups are simply following an example set by their religion's founder.
flagellum
(Feb 3 06, 07:03)Sounds like current US foreign policy. With us, or against us isn't it?
It also sounds like the UK's past conquests.
So what's your point?
- Brookoioioi0
Judaism, Islam and Christianity have much in common. Despite New Testament watering down and other reformist tendencies, all three pay historic allegiance to the same violent and vindictive God of Battles.
- ********0
be my brother or I'll kill you- said Chamfort
- flagellum0
moth, my point is that bloody forced conversions are the example that has been set. So, it should come as little surprise that there are some groups who employ a similar tactic today.
- jpolk0
or as get your war on says, "the same invisible superhero in outerspace"
i've always loved that.
- KuzIV0
actually that is a complete falsehood flagellum. The islamic conquests of the 6th century were territorial conquests and not about conversion.
The early Suras of the Quran refer to the tribal struggles of the tribe Mohammed belonged to (the Quresh) and those who had expelled them from Mecca. The reference to the infidels, in its historical context, refers to the struggle of the new tribe of Muslims to win back the city of Mecca from what they referred to as infidels (the ones who had expelled them).
The early Muslim Caliphs (in particular the Abbasid dynasty of 700-800 AD) set themselves up as a ruling class and, compared to Chrisitan Europe, showed exemplary respect to the Christians and Jews (though later dynasties were less pleasant).. During the first few hundred years of Islam, Muslims continued to be a minority in the Middle East and were content to be so. In fact, conversion to Islam was dicouraged because the Caliphs would then lose an important source of tax revenue.
I always think it cute when Christians bring up Islam's treatment of minority faiths. A Monty Python sketch always comes to mind
"no one ever expects the Spanish inquisition!"
- Cactus0
Don't bother with history, flagellum, it's irrelevant to their "feelings".
- KuzIV0
Importantly the great intellectual feats accomplished by the early Muslim dynasties had everything to do with the tolerance of Muslim courts to minority faiths.
Note the Muslim rulers of India:
- jno0
"no one ever expects the Spanish inquisition!"
KuzIV
(Feb 3 06, 07:13)hahahha
never expected to smile once in this thread.. nice one Kuz
- ********0
That's it!
I'm moving to Waco, Texas and starting my own religion, see what you b@stards did to me!
:P
- flagellum0
It would be more accurate to say that what Judaism, Islam and Christianity have in common is scriptures which give historical account of battles (in the context of a primitive nomadic people). Suggesting that they all have a unifying allegiance to the same "violent" and "vindictive" God, demonstrates a gross lack of understanding of culture and context.
- kelpie0
Islamic Spain was hundreds of years ahead of Christian Spain in terms both of standard of living for all, and tolerance of all 3 main faiths. that's a fact btw.