Violent Aussies
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- ********0
which makes me think that good people are everywhere, it's just the bad seeds that f*ck sh*t up.
JazX
(Dec 13 05, 06:22)that's some radical new thinking there Jaz. I'm not so sure. I always had trouble with Turks and Bengalis. Always sucking theyre teef when i walk past and lookin at me funny.
As long as they'r serving me me kebabs, i'm not too fussed!
KuzII
(Dec 13 05, 06:28)lol man, you make me laugh ahhahahahha
- Cactus0
Random retaliation is never ok and should be condemned unreservedly. That said, these disturbances didn't happen in a vacuum. Here a story that may add some context to events leading up to Sunday:
"The Cronulla Mob's rampage on Sunday was a disgusting display of the very worst in people.
But this riot is not something that can simply have a full stop put after a ritual condemnation. I have lived in Sydney most of my life and the rise of the nominally Muslim/Arab criminal gang culture and the manifest failure of successive governemnts to confront them has gotten to the point where there is a very dangerous current of rage that will arc very easily. Sydney is a very tribal city to begin with, and it would be tempting to dismiss this as one of those tribal tensions that spill over from time to time, but I really have my doubts. From car theft to rape gangs, the gangs that identify themselves as Lebanese (many of their members are not Lebanese, and the far larger, and older, Maronite Lebanese community in Australia are not regraded as Lebanese by these gangs) are unusual amongst the old pattern of criminal organisations that sometimes flourish in dislocated communities of recent immigrants in that they do not prey upon their own community but direct their attentions outwards at both other ethnic communities and the more established Anglo Celtic host society. The scale of their impact, both anecdotally and statistically seems to be in a different class from other phenomena- Sydney now has the one of the highest car theft rates in the wolrd per capita, and this is know to be a virtual monopoply of the gangs who call themsleves Lebanese. The phenomena of pack raping with an overt religio/racial context has struck a deep nerve, and the attempted conspiracy of silence that finnally broke down when the scale of what was happeneing was appreciated (with estimates that hundreds of women had suffered these assaults and thousands had been threatened).
I know the the plural of anecdote is not data, but my own experience is suggestive of the scale of what is going on - I have been assulted twice by groups of toughs who openly identified themselves as "Lebs", both times while waiting for a taxi after work, in broad daylight. Acompnaying one's sister, girlfriend or even 9 year old neice to some shopping centres on a Saturday morning and putting up with leers and insults like tart, slut and the like by groups of toughs at coffee shops has become just another aggravation of the shopping experience. One knows not to react because their will be no restraint in the response, and it will be fast and furious. And these are centres far from where many of these people live. Parts of Sydney are simply no-go areas if you are not young, male and muslim.
I hate old style Australian yob culture, and the Cronulla mob's behaviour was a painful reminder that it has not disappeared, but I am afraid that things like having your 9 year old neice leered at and insulted does leave you shaking with a rage that is very hard to rationlise with, especially when that is simply regarded as below the threshold which the police will seek a confrontation over."
Seems to me to be a massive failure of policing.
- ********0
Was this Saturday night Kuz?
- KuzII0
aye Cactus, that happened in Bradford too. All these Pakistani gangs (we call em Pakis) running around raping white women. No one dared talk about it apart from this guy called Nick Griffith from the British National Party.
I think he said that the Koran tells em to rape infidel women. Summat like that.
We should get to the heart of this issue, Muslim rape gangs.
Nice copy/paste Cactus, from somewhere.
- Cactus0
Sydney Morning Herald
House organ of the Australian Nazi PartyHere's another racist writing in that lothsome nazi rag:
http://blogs.smh.com.au/thecontr…Wishing it doesn't happen doesn't mean it doesn't exist. and playing the race card will not dispell that fact.
- Cactus0
Just curious Kuz,
Are you a Guardian or an Independent reader...or both?
- KuzII0
Actually Cactus, I think it’s more indicative of the person YOU are, considering what OPINIONS you choose to read and post on this forum to reinforce your own prejudices when trying to comprehend situations in countries you know nothing about. I do doubt your ability to say with confidence that what you posted “puts things into context”, and the confidence you have in an article that admits it is based on anecdote, and not data [“I know the plural of anecdote is not data”]. But then again, you also show a snide confidence in drawing parallels between jihadist terrorism and urban violence amongst an immigrant community [“It wasn't drunk Aussi sufers who flew those planes into the twin towers...wanker” Cactus (Dec 12 05, 13:22)]
I just hate Turks and Bengalis, cos they gimme shit. And they also happen to be mainly Muslims. So I’m justified in thinking what I do.
- ********0
Did you grow up Muslim or are you a practicing Muslim Kuz? I know it doesn't matter in a lot of countries as many Muslim groups f*ck each other up.
- Cactus0
Sorry for the delayed response--I had to step out to beat up a few Muslims.
People like you genuinely interest me. Your political beliefs are relatively transparent and not very sophisicated. I think it was you who summed up your guiding principle as (I paraphrase) "Anything that does down America is a good thing." A very thin gruel indeed. But you're probably young and, from your writing, indisputably intelligent. There is time for you to acquire a more thoughtful and impartial view of the world.
But what I would really like to know is whether or not you think there is a problem within Islam or is it all the evil MacChimpler's fault.
- GouchoMarx0
this KuzII chaps a right sort int he aye? Fuckin givin it all that clever talk one minute, racist chants the next hahaha - go on son get your boots laced up, nice and straight now.
- Cactus0
Yeah, he's rather special.
- Cactus0
Special K
Where'd you go?
- ********0
man you guys are funny. :)
- ********0
- ********0
ha,
now i want some aussie slang to spice up my ...uh... my words
- ********0
Put a Leb on the Barbie!
;)
- ********0
damn. i have new respect for aussies.
that dude was punching the guy full force WHILE wearing aviator shades!?! the dude was so badass he didn't even stop to take his glasses off FIRST before dishing out some sucker punches with his shades on. man. what a man.
- ********0
cook him into a full fledged wog
- ********0
abso-bloody-lutely
- ********0
abo-fukin-luty