Who still uses Quark?
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- uncle_helv0
Ahhh Quark she gives pleasure and pain in equal measures.
Our studio only uses Quark for layout/design!
- ********0
Whatever NonSeff.
You asked me to prove it (back up what I said), I did and now you can't deal with the fact that you don't know what you're talking about.
You're A#1 because you are a Quark user!! You win the big prize!! Big superstar!!
P.S. - Most printers don't upgrade software until it is absolutely 100% mission critical vital.
P.P.S. - I've been using InDesign since its inception and I've yet to have a problem or complaint from a printer.
- ********0
BTW NonSeff, you have some really nice work.
I don't mean any real harm I just think its b.s. that you asked me to back up what I was saying and then, when I did, you had to find fault in that too.
- mayo0
P.S. - Most printers don't upgrade software until it is absolutely 100% mission critical vital.
designaked
(Nov 8 05, 10:16)we stopped using printers who required us to change our files because they didn't also have InDesign. With such a strong following on both ends, printers should have both or suffer getting left behind in the dust.
- ********0
I would say that 8-9 out of 10 printers I've dealt with over the last few years are still running PS 5 and Illustrator 8. I even talked to a printer one time about why they haven't upgraded to the latest and always maintain the latest software and he told me that they don't need to have the latest version, its not vital for them, so they are always 2-3 versions behind....so, if they don't really need the latest and greatest version then why spend the money when it could be better used on something else.
- mayo0
if they really don't need it, then they don't need to get it. But how many jobs do they turn away or lose from studios with InDesign or an Illy CS file with filters and effects that are not available in older versions? We've sent jobs out of state to printers because redoing a 30 page catalog would take too long to redo.
- mrdobolina0
LOTS of newspapers and magazines in the US still use quark. Because companies like APT write extensions for them to automate content delivery, text flow etc. These extensions havent been as developed for InDesign yet.
- ********0
I agree Mayo. I know a lot of printers are "working around" the Indesign/Quark problem by requesting PDFs. More and more printers I talk to actually prefer to receive PDFs....which I think is a bit wierd but I haven't had a problem yet with doing that for those printers.
Here is another thread on another site about Quark vs. Indesign.......short thread but still decent:
- ********0
Dobs, you may be right, but I just managed a 9 month long ad campaign (both magazine and newspaper) throughout the US and every single publication prefered receiving PDFs. I would say that 99% of the publications I dealt with, even small ones, listed their preferred PDF Distiller settings on their site so it was easy to set up the files perfectly for each pub.
- e-pill0
i never used quark a day in my life.
:)
- mrdobolina0
that is true, we get ads in pdf format all the time.
but the actual production of the paper is a completely different thing.
- ********0
Oh, ya, agreed.
- mayo0
yeah, we've been given options for sending pdfs and will do that especially if the publication only excepts Quark files or pdfs. It's nice and emailable, too :D
- e-pill0
mayo makes all my pdfs!
thanks girl!!
:)
- MLP0
indesign does have a lot of people switching and is grabbing a lot of new users coming up in design, but i agree in quark won't die out anytime soon if at all.
people using quark forever have it so ingrained in their skill set, their work flow and in production/printing that making that switch will take too much time and money.
we switched at our college newspaper last year after a year of upgrades and integration issues (PC news desks running InCopy, servers, moving to OSX). without the freedom of more down time in the summer (only publishing twice a week instead of daily) and a staff already learning indesign in their classes, it would have never happened.
- MLP0
... and that switch was only for 15 seats, much much smaller than any large city paper
- kyl30
I need to do more print design work
- skelly0
Is anyone even teaching quark still? I mean a big switch is probably coming if the legions of graphic design grads have been trained only in InDesign.
- mayo0
HAhahahah you're welcome e-pill
- MLP0
at my school they took it off the campus computers and teachers had to get a grant to have it put back on. campus tech services are way seperate from the fine arts dept and don't really cater to it at all - i.e. no rips for the oversize printers, shitty queue system for printing, no program support.
i know other schools that have taken it off as well. i hadn't used it for 2 years until i had to at my new job. its not all that different from indesign, so its not hard to get used to.