Intelligent design
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- KuzII0
Somebody's word against somebody else's, Kuzz. Should we get Meyer on the phone? His critcs too?
discipler
(Nov 9 05, 08:34)not just "somebody's" but the ACTUAL words of the ACTUAL journal that published him, regretting their mistake. What more do you want??
- KuzII0
It's about the facts. Which you, as is your custom, ignore. :)
discipler
(Nov 9 05, 08:34)facts that THE COUNCIL OF THE BIOLOGICAL
SOCIETY OF WASHINGTON regretted publishing Meyer in their journal? i'm confused!;)
- mrdobolina0
garett, you have no beliefs. so until you do, eat shit.
All you do is bitch about other people's opinions, never offering up your own and when you do, it involves agreeing with pat robertson about assasinating world leaders.
then 2 weeks later you support chavez.
You are a pissant.
- discipler0
Please go look up:
"Stephen Meyer, “The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories” Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington 117(2004):213-239.
Meyer argues that competing materialistic models (Neo-Darwinism, Self –Organization Models, Punctuated Equilibrium and Structuralism) are not sufficient to account for origin of the information necessary to build novel animal forms present in the Cambrian Explosion. He proposes intelligent design as an alternative explanation for the origin of biological information and the higher taxa."
and...
"Scott Minnich and Stephen C. Meyer, “Genetic Analysis of Coordinate Flagellar and Type III Regulatory Circuits,” Proceedings of the Second International Conference on Design & Nature, Rhodes Greece, edited by M.W. Collins and C.A. Brebbia (WIT Press, 2004).
This article underwent conference peer review in order to be included in this peer-edited proceedings. Minnich and Meyer do three important things in this paper. First, they refute a popular objection to Michael Behe’s argument for the irreducible complexity of the bacterial flagellum. Second, they suggest that the Type III Secretory System present in some bacteria, rather than being an evolutionary intermediate to the bacterial flagellum, is probably represents a degenerate form of the bacterial flagellum. Finally, they argue explicitly that intelligent design is a better than the Neo-Darwinian mechanism for explaining the origin of the bacterial flagellum."
- KuzII0
yes, discipler, i went to this link
http://www.discovery.org/scripts…
i posted it in the first place. I just showed you that TWO of the claims of peer-review are wholly falacious!
This is why the argument never progresses with you. Read:
http://www.biolsocwash.org/id_st…
http://www.leaderu.com/real/ri99…
and thats just a start!
- discipler0
and don't google it, kuzz. If peer review is so important to you (as opposed to the actual science), find the reviewers and contact them directly. Ask them their feelings.
- discipler0
You showed me nothing, kuzz. You showed me something you googled. Now, do as I just told you.
- KuzII0
discpler - how does your last post on Meyer counter the fact that the journal that peer-reviewed him quickly regretted it and issued a statement to the effect that they would never make such a mistake agian?
- KuzII0
didn't i show you a statemen on the bio society of washingtons own offical website???
i'm confused... hehe, your a beligerant fellow aren't you!
- discipler0
kuzz, you found something on the internet which allegedly claims they regret it. Contact them directly and ask them.
Could you nitpick on peripheral issues a little more please? I need help going to sleep.
- mrdobolina0
garett, what are your views on this debate? sorry about telling you to eat shit, it was out of line. I dont really want you to eat feces.
- ********0
mrdobolina I believe that you are an ass.
I believe that God loves you no matter what and it drives you crazy.
With the Pat Robertson thing I admitted I was badly informed and after knowing the facts I happily changed my view. That is what grown ups do.
I don't give a fuck about this thread being For God/Against God I give a fuck about the fact that none of you can let it go that you all feel the way you do and if this thread goes to 10,000 posts you still will all feel the same way. You are a sad pathetic broken record who uses your vast knowledge of google searches for political and religious messages to feel superior to everyone else.
Fuck. You. Rick. And God bless your pathetic little life.
The End.
- discipler0
And if it's true... it wouldn't at all surprise me. See, the Darwin Machine has it's hands in many powerful places. It knows how to exert the right pressures and where and on who. If you actually read and understand how peer review works, you'll find out about bias and prejudice against new ideas. It's nothing new.
- discipler0
Bottom line, kuzz. You are spending a lot of energy trying to demonstrate something that has very little significance in the grand scheme of this issue. :)
- shilohous0
i really dont want garett to eat shit either
- KuzII0
kuzz, you found something on the internet which allegedly claims they regret it. Contact them directly and ask them
discipler
(Nov 9 05, 08:42)de-nile is not just a river in egypt you know! lol
i'm off home, wasting me breath with you!
- discipler0
mmhmmm.
