bush faked photo ops?
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- TheTick0
Bering 'conservative' in America means that you can excuse the Bush administration for not anticipating the consequences of the levee break, while blaming single black mothers for not anticipating the consequences of staying in New Orleans last weekend.
- TheTick0
From the NY Times, Sept 5:
"Under the command of President Bush's two senior political advisers, the White House rolled out a plan this weekend to contain the political damage from the administration's response to Hurricane Katrina.
It orchestrated visits by cabinet members to the region, leading up to an extraordinary return visit by Mr. Bush planned for Monday, directed administration officials not to respond to attacks from Democrats on the relief efforts, and sought to move the blame for the slow response to Louisiana state officials, according to Republicans familiar with the White House plan.
The effort is being directed by Mr. Bush's chief political adviser, Karl Rove, and his communications director, Dan Bartlett."
You see, this is a POLITICAL problem. They roll out a plan to contain political damage...They have to manage the image. Forget the reality....
- TheTick0
Hmmm..and a US Senator seems to confirm that Bush faked the photo op:
http://www.nola.com/newslogs/bre…
"Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. The good and decent people of southeast Louisiana and the Gulf Coast - black and white, rich and poor, young and old - deserve far better from their national government," Landrieu said."
- pascii0
ZDF had a pretty good report about the desaster. very objective.
desaster are a pretty good way to make politics, 'cause a strong govt is needed.
bush is a complete muppet, like schoeder or chirac, this is pure infotainment. better interview some guys who work there to share food
- Cactus0
TheTick is on a roll so I won't attempt to impead his momentum downhill. Just for the record, I hold no brief on the Bush admin's obvious problem of organizational competence, although shifting blame for entire tragedy that unfolded in New Oleans is rank oppurtunism and displays transparent partisanship. I was referring to the other contributor ealier in the thread.
Btw unfit, the turkey thing was a hoax. But I suppose people will believe what they want to believe is true...
- vespa0
there's no need for any conspiracy theories on this, the handling of this disaster has been appalling.
nuff bitching tho.
https://give.redcross.org/?homep…
- ethios0
i dont understand why the richest country on the planet needs donations.
- determinedmoth0
i dont understand why the richest country on the planet needs donations.
ethios
(Sep 5 05, 04:17)I don't either. However - it took the government over 5 days to release funds, and over 5 days to act. The Red Cross were the first on the ground and I dont believe they are funded by the government.
The donations within the first 48 hours probably did help somewhat... but I dont think they really more now.
- vespa0
i definately trust the red cross to help more than the government. the government only seems to help the rich.
- monoblanco0
figure out what?... what does bush suck? who's pissed? what am I dealing with?
The Bush administration presses the Pentagon and CIA to provide them with intelligence to support their claims of WMDs. The Pentagon reluctantly complies.
Collin Powell goes to the UN and presents what we now know was bogus intelligence to the world. US credibility suffers it's most serious setback in history.
Powell aid describes that day as the lowest point of his career.
Head of the CIA, Tenet takes the bullet and resigns months later.
US goes into Iraq. The war plan is basicaly a number of assumptions.
Iraqi oil will pay for reconstruction. We'll be greeted as liberators, etc.
2 years and billions of dolars later an insurgency rages on.
American troops appear to never have anticipated such a lenghty operation. Troops complain about the lack of propper equipment, namely armor for hevicles.
New Orlaens gets hit by the hurricane that has been predicted for decades.
FEMA's response, evident.
Most of the people left behind either didn't have a car to flee the city, or had nowhere to go.
deal with this.
- PonyBoy0
Enter response:
monoblanco... thank you - was that so hard? :)
spew spew spew... but nothin' new.
- durang0
its good to see so many people using the hurricane to express thier petty political opinions . . .
politics impede progress
- TheTick0
its good to see so many people using the hurricane to express thier petty political opinions . . .
politics impede progress
durang
(Sep 5 05, 11:37)
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No, what we saw in New Orleans is what happens when politics is removed. Pure Hobbesian survival.Government is a tool and when used in smart hands, it is smart. Smart hands are not guiding government now, they are abusing it.
- Rand0
- monoblanco0
Politics?
This is a matter of incompetence.
Democrat or Republican, if you're incompetent you can't be in power.
- ukit0
"politics impede progress"
Screw that, if anything is clear it's that the government was completely unable or unwilling to do what it needed to do to save lives. We need new leadership, plain and simple. What will you say when it happens in your town?
- ukit0
I mean, not that it's surprising. Look at what happened in Iraq. Look at Bush's record in the business world before he went into politics. The only reason he ever looked competent is because he happened to be president when 9-11 happened.
- chokethefat0
..talking bout antichrist..
well nostradamusss predicted there'd be 3 antichrist in human race course..
first one was napoleon,
second was a.hilter,
third one is still undetermined..
some books/writers proposed osama after the 9-11..
but perhaps it's someone else hiding behind the shield of democracy..amen
- Crouwel0
uhm..yeah, nostradmus..
right...
well, keep on choking the fat, mate.