CSS - what crap!!
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- kelpie0
*wraps a div round skt and floats him right into the river
FUTURE PROOF THAT SON!!
- ********0
a poor tradesman always blames his tool, erm....
MX_OnD(Aug 11 05, 06:59)
EXACTLY
Keep on using tables buddy, see how long you work in the biz.
I hear Microsoft FrontPage is a great HTML table app.
- UndoUndo0
http://www.csszengarden.com anyone? ;)
- ********0
EXACTLY
Keep on using tables buddy, see how long you work in the biz.
I hear Microsoft FrontPage is a great HTML table app.
KILLputer
(Aug 11 05, 07:05)Hahaha. Theres always one. Anyway, whats a biz? Is it like a div? You div.
- paraselene0
aw, go easy on 'em, fellahs. it's not their fault.
css haters:
it's like sex, okay? remember how you didn't realise you were doing it wrong until someone was charitable enough to point it out to you? and then it got loads better?
< /analogy>
- ********0
it's like sex, okay? remember how you didn't realise you were sticking it in the wrong hole until someone was charitable enough to point it out to you? and then it got loads better?
< /anal>
paraselene
(Aug 11 05, 07:09)
- paraselene0
oi! where'd my open analogy tag go?
*grumble
- mg330
Using CSS is kind of like using Actionscript, and using CSS & XHTML well for full layout with no tables is like full blown complex Actionscript.
What I mean by that is, some people get AS, and some people don't. I got pretty good at it through Flash 5 but have not used anything above Flash 5.
Learning something new - (and switching to CSS/XHTML is certainly new and different if you're used to tables and HTML and simple CSS for text control only) is never easy.
I've had pretty good success since April teaching myself how to do layouts with CSS/X and I really love it.
I'm actually lucky enough that my company is paying for me to go to the Eric Meyer CSS/XHTML seminar here in Chicago in November. So I can't wait to learn more and see what I'm doing right, what I can improve on, etc.All I can say is, there are so many great resources out there to learn from. I have the Zen Garden book and it gave me great ideas on how to combine several things together.
But it's basically tons of trial and error. Change an aspect of the CSS page, see what it does to the HTML page. Do it again, do it again, etc. and understand what effects the layout, what effects your text, positioning, etc.It really is a great way to set up a site, and even better if combine it with ASP. Goodbye iframes, hello loading ASP content into divs and not having to mess with a main page file.
I love it. Put your chin up, work up some elbow grease, and for Christ's sake stop crying.
- ********0
It's really not that hard at all once you learn it.
- kelpie0
It's really not that hard at all once you learn it.
KILLputer
(Aug 11 05, 07:11)quite like quantum physics in that respect then ;)
- Kevin_Sweeney0
css isn't about the developer.
it's about the user, having their browser use a small cached file for each page instead of making their browser load table data for every page on a site..myInternetCock {
min-height: 18in;
}*slaps table users with internet cock*
- mg330
Nice one parasalene. My thoughts exactly.
There's also nothing wrong with FrontPage. I use it at work because it was cheaper than getting Dreamweaver (volume licensing with MS here) 2005 version is pretty decent, and since I'm really only using it to code the CSS, it's not tossing in all it's useless crap that bogs it down.
- jDs0
People who dis css2 are *probably just n00b programmers who think that because a language has a learning curve, it is somehow's the standard's fault for 'sucking'. maybe your chops are weak. maybe you need to work harder and actually learn something. If you're constantly re-writing css at all that would be the first clue that you need to get back to basics - css2 is the most flexible, reusable formatting language, hands down.
- Jaline0
CSS ROCKS
- ********0
learning Dreamweaver to me is a lot harder than writing pure CSS code.
I use a basic text editor or BBEdit and go.
There is so much available info on CSS that if you keep practicing you can learn it in no time.
- ********0
.skt { display: none }
- mg330
I'll tell you what's bitchin' about it - setting up your entire navigation within the CSS, images and positioning and all.
- Jaline0
CSS ROCKS
Jaline
(Aug 11 05, 07:18)So does CSI.
NY.
- jDs0
I'll tell you what's bitchin' about it - setting up your entire navigation within the CSS, images and positioning and all.
mg33damnned straight mg, damn f***ing straight.
- ********0
learning Dreamweaver to me is a lot harder than writing pure CSS code.
KILLputer
(Aug 11 05, 07:20)Learning Dreamweaver is like to learning to "hoover".
Just learn to clean, bitch.