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- currey0
"pleasure is oft a visitant, but pain clings cruelly to us" -keats
ell i think its time that i told you guys the truth ok. now that its late and no one is going to be online to call me assinine or an ass or something worse.
basically, i think we are more "better"
and when i say 'we' i mean 'me'.now... god is a neo conservative republican and he has controling interest in halliburton. if you are a serious scientologist and research with the standard scientific texts " the davinci code" then i'm sure you will come to the same conclusion, that asians are the best "swimmers" and 'specifically in the "pike" position. which is why halliburton does not want them hoding all the cards, as it were, and so forth.
evolution is fine, as long as it keeps nerdy thin people in school, but what about our "fast food culture" and why does god have such a sick sense of humor.
- version30
discipler-
you keep preaching.
god though, still not realgod is still mans answer to the realization of self
no more, no less than the easy answer to "why/how am I here"
Version3
- currey0
in all seriousness th,ou i don't see reports in the news of die hard evolutionists blowing up abortionclinics, office towers ...forming majority government and going to war for our lord darwin.
- pocho0
One thing for sure, Discipler, you are great at condensing your rebuttals. I also thank you for emailing me the links I asked about a while back. But I don't think the response answers the items brought up at the link I posted. How is their response damaging? It does seem like some of the original signees to the dissent list feel they were mislead, don't you think?
Sure...the response is old...but the NCSE appears to have been around since at least 1983.
I would have thought that the dissent list would have grown exponentially in the few years since the "response"...the growth, at least to me, of the dissent list does not seem very significant.
- pocho0
Good point...never thought of it that way, Currey.
- chameleonic0
well , I got here late, but I'll say a few lines to a dead thread... I'm waiting for not long away when science can see smaller than it already can and actually doeas stumble upon a physical force that seems to bind things together with an unfathomable intelligence. it will have no gender, no overiding mission, no favouritism in spicies and certainly couldn't give a shit about various peoples metaphors, stories or attempts to understand it throughout history. they won't know what to call it, so they will have to call it god. and nobody on either side of teh argument will be able to say 'we won'.
we came from space by the way.
- lambsy0
chameleon, i think they are halfway there: we would now be speaking of "string theory" of course, but thats neither here nor there.
on another note, why is it such a big deal that god sent jesus down to give his life for us or whatever, i mean, he (jesus) knew he was gonna live forever, and that he had superpowers and all, and that he would be ressurrected. so- if he knew he would be ok, whats the big deal about him giving his life for us?
i'm torn. and scared.
- woodyBatts0
4. He does care about us. So much so that he came to earth in the person Jesus Christ and gave his (human) life so that we might have a relationship with him.
-discipler
This is what it's all about. Just another evangelical way to promote faith in christ, just using the guise of science.
Also the discovery link gave a list of people who signed to say that they should reexamine Darwinism, which is a whole lot more than just 'survival of the fittest', it does not support creationism.
People already believe in Intelligent Design, just different designers, another way to name the old horse,IMO.
- ********0
1. The Cambrian Explosion (millions of species suddenly appearing in the fossil record with no time to have evolved) = not a small problem.
discipler
(Aug 9 05, 18:25)That's actually a very nice point.
- pavlovs_dog0
if your ignorant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam…
"i dont understand this, therefore it must have been big baby jesus"
- ********0
what do you mean pavlovs_dog? I'm not supporting Creationism persay, but there are holes in both it and Evolutionary Theory.
The Burgess Shale deposits in Canada support what discipler is bringing to the front.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bur…
Since it's a sedimentary deposit it's full of cool little crablike creatures called Trilobites.
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The Cambrian Explosion has recently been a controversial topic regarding the history and evolution of life, with the idea posited that the Burgess Shale preserved such a wide variety of life and that the "Cambrian Explosion" was actually a slower radiation of animal forms than previously thought. The idea of an "explosion" of life in the Cambrian period is still being debated.The debate centers in part around an earlier notion that all phyla in existence today (and all others now extinct) except one were first found in this period. This would be as if one were pacing off the length of a football field (starting 4 bya), when between paces 78 and 79 all the different phyla suddenly sprang into existence.
- pavlovs_dog0
i.d. is not science, flat out. holocaust revisionism is not history, flat out.
its ok if you dont get it.
- ********0
Forget god or secular human free will, it's the malaria parasite that's controlling all of us:
- ********0
1. The Cambrian Explosion (millions of species suddenly appearing in the fossil record with no time to have evolved) = not a small problem.
discipler
(Aug 9 05, 18:25)That's actually a very nice point.
JazX
(Aug 10 05, 05:16)
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Actually alot of work being down in the Complexity of science area does seem to make a good argument for an emergent explosion of diversity after certain preconditions are met.Similar allegorical happenings seem to happen in other areas of nature and even jhuman society. For example, civilization is only about 10,000 years old, yet man exiosted for millions of years before that - what caused this explosion and diversity of human society models? Biological and environmental conditions and population density seem to point to a tipping point into this new "diversity" and I would suspect that the same can be said of the Cambrian period.
You see it reflected in economic situations as well - explosions of diverse forms of products, the market place matures and it settles for a few variations on a successful theme. I think this is a deep underlying organizing principle of nature - not a arrow pointing to holes in science.
- arinya0
theTick = hole in science
- ********0
theTick = hole in science
arinya
(Aug 10 05, 06:52)
----------------------i think grammatically it should read "a hole in science" don't you think?
- ********0
Not so sure about that TheTick. It's not as if those things are being measured often enough.
- mrdobolina0
I found the missing link!
