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- Point50
Let's devolve it immediately...
*peels banana
- robotron3k0
discipler, you need to stick to the point.
1) Does God exist?
2) and if he does, show me proof.
3) and if he exists, how did he evolve from ape to preach the good word of himself.
4) and lastly, why doesn't he care about us down here? (or maybe he designed us for no reason at all)
what say you?
- discipler0
this dead horse has been beaten beyond recognition. At this point everybody here who is genuinely interested in this issue, needs to do personal study and make a conclusion of their own.
...and then report to me via email. Class dismissed.
- cosmo0
5) a)will there be NT in heaven or hell?
B) will it be the same colors?
- robotron3k0
no worries class, i put visine in discipler coffee. he'll be sitting on the commode the rest of the day...
- discipler0
robotron -
1. Prove he doesn't exist. See, it amounts to what you consider "proof". For me, proof is in the design of the universe, the very fact that we exist, the changed lives thru a relationship with him, and the sense that we all have of something beyond ourselves.
2. See above.
3. If he is outside everything which has a beginning, he logically does not have a beginning and is therefore the "uncaused first cause". Only that which has a beginning requires a cuase. So, God does not. He's eternal, outside of time and space (creations).
4. He does care about us. So much so that he came to earth in the person Jesus Christ and gave his (human) life so that we might have a relationship with him.
- dbloc0
so if it was all developed by an intelligent designer, who designed the intelligent designer? an Uber Intelligent Designer?
- discipler0
5. Everyone knows that NT will be pink.
*runs to the lavatory holding bottom.
- discipler0
dbloc, refer to number 3 above.
- discipler0
I'm out, gentlemen. Been lovely.
- unfittoprint0
[un]fortunately Jesus
only became "teh son of g.o.d."
after the council of Nicaea.
300 years after his death.
- discipler0
That's a myth, unfit. The New Testament scriptures are replete with references to Christ's deity. Well before the council of Nicea.
See:
John 1:1,14
Colossians 1, 2:9
John 10
Hebrews 1
Revelation 1To name a few.
- Point50
* peels second banana.
* begins to toss excrement at random NT'ers
- unfittoprint0
not a "myth".
Constantine bet on a winning horse.
Ironically he remained [what your kind call] "pagan" until hist last breath.
- dbloc0
dbloc, refer to number 3 above.
number 3 where?
- ukit0
- dbloc0
found it.
It's hard to believe that anything doesn't have a beginning. Any proof of anything that we've ever seen or heard has had a beginning.
3. If he is outside everything which has a beginning, he logically does not have a beginning and is therefore the "uncaused first cause". Only that which has a beginning requires a cuase. So, God does not. He's eternal, outside of time and space (creations).
- discipler0
Getting your history wrong. The council of Nicea was organized to silence the heresy which suggested that Jesus was a created being rather than eternal God.
It was to ensure that church leadership was on the same page regarding what the scriptures already clearly taught.
The only thing [my kind] would say about Constantine was that he, rather tragically, married true early Christianity with Greek paganism. And this would produce the Roman Catholic church.
- Point50
this guy definitely has god-given talent:
- mrdobolina0
"For me, proof is in the design of the universe, the very fact that we exist, the changed lives thru a relationship with him, and the sense that we all have of something beyond ourselves"
this could be said about scientology or any other crackpot religion too, discipler.