i h8 graphic designers
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- rabattski0
now you mentioned jesus save, jesus also worked with form and content. :)
- save0
omfg!!
- save0
more interesting topic
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- Nairn0
"..this distain renders me better able.."
I fucking hate bloggers.
"Please remove your head from your ass — you are embarassing the rest of us."
- ********0
Graphic design aside, up until somewhat recently, digital artwork, or art done using a computer didn't seem to be given credit or as much credit as artwork produced with "natural" materials or craft.
I remember just a few years ago having to explain to other traditional media artists how the computer was essentially a tool much like a paintbrush or clay, or a camera is.
Even photographers first had trouble accepting Photoshop as something to treat photography as an alternative to the dark room.
Art isn't something easy to define I guess, it's meaning has been disputed since forever. But often times this dialoug itself gives new meaning to it.
Like someone said, something becomes art the moment the viewer chooses it to be, and it becomes art for that person. Nature is the original artist.
If a computer is programmed to churn out paintings or music, who gets the credit? The computer, programmer, or both?
- mrdobolina0
Id rrather be known as creative. It's less limiting.
- enobrev0
I prefer being known as a drunk... but hey, creative - reliant upon inebriating substances... hardly a difference.
As for design as an art, if you feel any profession in which someone puts time into creative solutions to very limited problems is merely a way to make a buck, you probably buy paintings from people you'll never know.
Sure we do what we do to pay the rent, but there are some of us who do what we do - very well - to make paying the rent far more satisfying.
An artist is someone who can break the barriers of impossibility and cynicism and make people think, if at least to think about keeping up. I can't blame them for paying their rent along the way.
Then again designers are self-centered ego-manics with their heads so far up their own asses they can re-regurgitate last night's corn, so it can be fun to tell them they aren't artists, just to watch them throw a temper tantrum.
Ok... admittedly I haven't read this whole thread. I just have a few drink in me, the sun is coming up and I decided this was a perfect oppotunity to piss on designers on a designer forum.
- mrdobolina0
hahaha
- sauerbraten0
nobody can deny that a great 'design' transcends it's first purpose of serving a function and can become 'art'.
how many things in MoMA are 'design' pieces?
- ********0
Sure, a modern example could be something as simple as the screen saver. Originally designed to function as an application to prevent screen burn, it made it's way into something that was more geared towards artwork than function.
I'm not sure of the function (if any) that the design of the windchime was supposed to serve (Im guessing it had something to do with wind velocity/detection, but today I think it's more art than anything else.
Clothing itself was originaly a design to protect man from the elements (and from oversexed woman), over time came fasion which would fuse art and expression into clothing. Fasion in itself is a movement that seems to take the facilities of design into the expression of art.
Like I was saying before though, "real" art I feel is always created by the viewer, not so much the creator of the object itself or even an artist. An artist can try to help the viewer see the art in something, but ultimately it's all in the eye of the beholder.
I often hear from people that they are envious of artists and other creatives because they themselves lack the power of imagination that it takes to create art. In all cases I can prove them wrong by having them give me their take on something (either tangeable or intangeable) and explaining how they releate to it or picture it. By doing so, they have created art themselves... everyone is a creative, an artist, thats the point. everyone has it inside, it's how they are able to express it to others and by what means they choose to do so.
- blackspade0
"Unfortunately in our field, in a so-called creative activity – I’ve begun to hate that word. I especially hate when it is used as a noun. I shudder when I hear someone called a 'creative'. Anyhow, when you are doing something in a recurring way to diminish risk or doing it in the same way as you have done it before, it is clear why professionalism is not enough. After all, what is desirable in our field, is continuous transgression. Professionalism does not allow for that because transgression has to encompass the possibility of failure and if you are professional your instinct is not to fail, it is to repeat success. Professionalism as a lifetime aspiration is a limited goal."