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- plugindesign
Hi people,
Been designing a couple of logos for a potential client, only had a weekend to do it but I am very happy with it.
The client has come back to me and apparantly they need it to have more of an impact, trouble is, I have seen one of their other companies logo and it's really cheesy.
I have only really done web based design before, although I am a trained graphic designer, anyway, I seen this project as a good anchor to get myself more print based work through the door.
In a polite, nothing to lose kind of way, I think I may explain that I only want to work on designs that I believe in, I have done a lot of crap in the past and not stood up for myself, now I have decided that I need to build a good protfolio, and the only way of doing that it seems, is to have someone who is not design orientated mess up my design.
Thanks.
- ********0
and now back to the real world.
;)
- Jaline0
You'll have to make those sacrifices if you want clients.
It's also your preference.
- ********0
I design stuff everyday that gets raped by the client. But they pay the bills so what can you do.
- dippy0
lol JazX.
If I only worked on designs I believed it, I'd be very happy and very poor. Which, I guess, is okay by me. But part of being a designer for hire is doing work for other people, even if their ideas, politics, agendas and sensibilities are different from mine.
- plugindesign0
I was advised to explain in a document reasons behind a design, why you used a particular colour, type, image, etc etc, apparantly, this is supposed to distill confidence in the client, therefore encourage them not to input with crap ideas.
Think it was Hillman Curtis in his book MTIV.
It didn't work in my case though :(
- its_only_me0
Just give them what they want.
At least your getting paid.Everyones an artist these days.
Now and again you'll find a client who will bring in an example that their son done (oh he got PS free with his new computer..blah blah)
The client will get the point when they look at your portfolio site and their logo is the only one that isnt on it.
- spendogg0
Being a designer, you need to meet the clients expectations, and you can create a solution that is aesthetic as well - that is why a creative brief is key - everyone signs off on it and when you go to present your awesome logo, all of the points that need to met are in the creative brief, that is your back up. i often end up writing the briefs for the client, muhhahahaahahaha
- ********0
there's a happy median that can be found in any job like that. be open-minded and you'll do well in anything you do.
- spendogg0
Yes JazX, you speak the gospel.
- ********0
spendogg is my new favorite NT'er. Sorry vburo, back to the garbage can for you!
*halts the overseas wires to vburo
- ********0
Just email the client their logo through the fax, on an excel spreadsheet. Make sure it pops, and the text isnt too small. When you increase the size of the text however, the logo may appear smaller, so bump that up a bit too. Tell the client they've got a good eye for this sort of thing, then take their stupid pissing money and drink yourself half to death while you defrag and have your haircut in a vain attempt to purge the images of 'swooshes' and Arial Black (cause they wont buy Helvetica, and cant see the difference).
Rinse and repeat.
Welcome to the wonderful world of graphic design.
- ********0
hahahahahah
- ********0
wait for 2 days until the client calls back, asking how they can update the site themselves...
Blather on and on about DNSzones, cache poisoning and even buffer underwrites if you can be bothered, explaining that changes to the site will make it vulnerable to spyware and pop-besides (the new malevolent version of popups).
Then, 'just remember' that you have a php-based interface that you might be able to let them have, depending on what your boss on the other line says. Let them hear you pleading with the boss to have this turnkey update solution, and leave with a fat check.
Welcome to the world of sales.
- ********0
*use comic sans on the update interface. Yeah.
- ********0
omg dude i'm writing this stuff down.
- spendogg0
*thumbs up to JazX
* Presses play to start underworld essential mix.
* Starts standards manual on crappy logo