vancouver 2010 logo
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- ********0
Vancouver sounds like a nice place. I wish i could be there singing
awua-awua-heee!
awua-awua-heee!riding up to Whitehorse in my bearskin, or spiffing up in a boar tusked canoe
8=K:
i really do. That's sounds like a living.
- snuggles0
sure nick, that and other next level type shit...
- NegativeSpace0
I wonder if any natives submitted logos.
- t_rock0
it was a gift for Expo 86
- t_rock0
the sculpture found at English Bay in Vancouver that is
- AlexLH0
"rather beautiful and should remain that way instead of on a mcdonalds cup"
So right.
- imnotnate0
so. did all of us who submitted get that email from VANOC?
- i_monk0
To drag this thread back on topic...
I like the idea of the inukshuk as the logo now that I know (according to our Van City members) they're all over the island -- I would have gone with Haida personally, but that's me. A black, white and red totem of stylized animal-athletes, that sort of thing.
The execution isn't all it could be, I agree. It seems like an early concept and really lacks personality. That said, I took a stab at modifying it:
though I kept the colours basically as they are, I made the inukshuk more welcoming and human. (How often is black left out of Olympic city logos?)
Does the inukshuk represent Canada? Yes -- about as much as a portrait of the Queen, the beaver, or the Bluenose II do. One symbol short of the flag itself can't possibly represent such a diverse population, so localizing it is a smart move.
The use of an Inukshuk raises a couple of tender issues wrt First Nations in Canada, cultural identity, and acceptance. The only way some Native cultural elements will remain relevant is if they are adopted by the wider population. Don't take this to be patronizing, but I think they should be glad that an aspect of their culture is being given such a global venue, even if it's not a Native artist or a Native event. It would be dreadfully easy to have ignored them and what they and their culture have to offer -- something we have generations of practice at doing.
"What's an inukshuk?" is a question people around the world will have answered for them thousands of times over the next 5 years. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. It engages, it informs, and it will put a spotlight on First Nations culture and history in Canada and spur improved relations.
- NegativeSpace0
Im more interested in the use of the inuit symbol, it seems like as i_monk said and as I did earlier some symbol like a totem pole fits BC better.
When I went out west a long time ago in grade school I distinctly remember the totem poles, not inukshuks. I see those things that people have hand made all around northern ontario too now, I guess it just seem like the most appropriate choice.
I can't say the execution has bugged me that much, could have maybe had some edges to give the idea that they are rocks, but the solid colours work. Would have not included the smiley face though. I think something along the lines of i_monk might be a bit too detailed with the opactities but it looks more rock like.
- imnotnate0
nice rework i_monk... you've convinced me all this logo needed was a couple rounds of design revisions.
what it could have been... guess we'll never know.
- monNom0
I feel bad for the designer. It must be harsh to have won, been all proud and stuff, and then have to get slogged with criticism and public outrage that your logo doesn't look like what everyone thinks it should look like.
I've gotta say though, it looks a hell of a lot better than the 'sneak-peak' inukshuk they showed on the news prior to the unveiling. I may not 'like' it, but I can live with it.
...and I'm leaving town for the olympics anyways.
- Visia0
I totally disagree that it will improve relations with the First Nations. I think that's already been proven with the Globe article stating how they're pissed off that it wasn't a native designer that created the emblem.
If anything, I think it hurts relations because now we look like we're using their gift for commercial purposes and trying to whitewash the crap that was handed to them.
I still maintain that I just plain think the logo is ugly. I never liked the inukshuks in the first place.
Plus, if there's any symbol that represents Canada from coast to coast it's the maple leaf. That's why it's on the flag.
- Visia0
which, by the way, leads me back to xrtions submission. Not just because it was such an elegant symbol, but because it merged the two key symbols of the event together so elegantly.
- i_monk0
I said "it will put a spotlight on First Nations culture and history in Canada and spur improved relations."
I did not say "using an inukshuk will improve relations with First Nations." There is a difference, if you care to grasp it.
- vburo0
"rather beautiful and should remain that way instead of on a mcdonalds cup"
So right.
AlexLH
(Apr 25 05, 17:03)i concur..
- vburo0
nice rework indeed, imonk.
altho i'd say the major mistake you've made here is that it has turned its back to us. bad psychology.
but hey, i get the idea..
- snuggles0
surely this is a piss take?
- vburo0
could be..
anyway.. Greg, if you are reading this, do check out the '2010' thread, is it true you are not allowed to show your submission in your portfolio now?
you put a lot of work in it and now they own it.. what a bunch of cunts.
- Visia0
well, I'm an intelligent person and "spurring improved relations" and "improving relations" sounds like the same thing to me. But I don't want this to degrade into a semantic argument so c'est la vie . . .
- Xrtions0
thanks for the heads up visia.
damn well i guess there goes my chance to get my book back. i only produced 1 copy and i did the most crap job of photographing it too.