Firefox Sucks!
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- shaft0
The internet is for diplaying information. Its not really an entertainment platform IMO.
hUtChhOuSe(Feb 14 05, 05:46)
----------------------It is both. Most of all it's about money. Internet sells, promotes, etc. and in order to attract people it does it in an entertaining way.
Modern visual communication in many situations is not something you can put into xml and style in different ways for each device. Picture, motion, sound and then text work together to form a message in audiovisual language. That's the language of advertisement, a picture transfers the multi-layer message better than words.
Let me give a small example:
For those who know the language (saw the film) the message is clear.
Another one:
Here, the cultural language is who AS was. Some people see only a car while others, like myself who know the story, get a thrill of seing this picture.
That is something you just cannot put into xml for various devices. The expressive and emotional part of the message will be lost in translation. That's why I think separation of content and design is an utopia and why flash doesn't die no matter how w3c prays for it.
- ********0
"Puter...
behave kiddo, this is not your league, leave adults vent from time to time.
The name is stuck on your head since you heard puter on the movie hackers right?
Is there is a movie about design, should we expect a new name." - yourClient.
Jesus you get some right tits on here sometimes. If you want to slag someone off yourClient, maybe you should learn to type english without sounding like a total tard.
Back to CSS, a pain in the arse to code but the way forward.
Information resources should be available to all (I think by law in the UK now) and the only way to do that is to seperate content from layout.
Anyway, I use flash 90% of the time, yourClient just got on my tits by coming accross like a proper cockhat.
- hUtChhOuSe0
"...Back to CSS, a pain in the arse to code but the way forward.
Information resources should be available to all (I think by law in the UK now) and the only way to do that is to seperate content from layout.
skt
(Feb 14 05, 06:42)"
--------------------------Word...
- YourClient0
And the winner is:
Cybo!!!!!!!!!!!!
See what I mean, all that meassuring to get a box on the fucking center, yet Cybo's approach was kind of short!
Cool.
- YourClient0
Puter...
Remember I'm yourclient so kneel and kiss my arse punk!
- shaft0
And the winner is:
Cybo!!!!!!!!!!!!
See what I mean, all that meassuring to get a box on the fucking center, yet Cybo's approach was kind of short!
Cool.
YourClient
(Feb 14 05, 18:53)
--------------------------Yes, it kinda proves you don't always get more control over layout with CSS. You must know the content size which can make the solution useless for dynamic content based sites.
- welded0
Using a little DOM you can find the dimensions (and other properties) of things like divs and dynamically adjust as necessary.
It works quite well in most situations, but I completely conceed that it's a workaround.
- imakedesign0
welded, could you explain DOM at little bit?
- komprehend0
safari is so gay.
- fusionpixel0
this might sound dumb, but you can create templates in DW for your pages. If you make a change somewhere and you created your template the right way you can update hundreds of pages with one click just as if you do with CSS. No that Templates is the way to go but for those who have problem understanding CSS and want to stick to the HTML method, that would be one way to do it.
- ********0
fusionpixel - you could go one step further and use php includes.
Personally, I couldn't live without DW document management.
- welded0
DOM: Document Object Model - Tastes like javascript.
- imakedesign0
ah ok, much like changing properties of a page by changing the stylesheet.
- xaoscontrol0
I'd say that CSS allows one to take a design completly done in FIreworks or PHotohop and 99% guarantee that it will still look that way by way of CSS in a browser that conforms to W3C standards.
I don't like the idea that my sites are going to look a little off in one browser compared to another. IE is fucked up. Simple. I've recently become a big fan of Firefox.

