Pretentious Designers
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- patnoodle
From NTB:
"My work is the result of a circuitous education and evolution from the pragmatic concerns of architecture and furniture design to the abstract preoccupations of sculpture."
I smell bullshit. It's the same sort of crap that art critics talk (who, by the way, should all be rounded up and shot), and those people who decide on the wording for menus at high-class restaurants.
Anyone agree, or do you like talking crap as well?
- clerk0
i hear ya. describing your own work that way is nothing but pretentious. it's like you're trying to justify the work with mumbojumbo crap. weak!
"Interpretation is the revenge of the intellect upon art" - Susan
Sontag
- Blofeldt0
That is utter bollocks alright! I must have read it 10 times, read each bit ,thought about it, and it still means nothing.
I think that decronstructivism is important, but only when the realtionships made are clear and concise. Otherwise it's just mindless waffle
- abizzyman0
i agree that everything is subjective to one's taste when it comes to anything that requires an opinion. (technically, nothing "requires" an opinion ;) )...
... but as far as 'art', 'design' and 'architecture' goes... it's all a matter of personal taste. My mom loves old country style... my dad loves western.. both my brothers are smothered in white trash... my aunt and uncle are exceptionally modern in their personal preference....
... all I do is learn from each factor and move forward...
'intellectuals' such as the critics you're talking about need to pull their overly academic heads out of their asses and start examining the real world...
... asthetically - the real world doesn't have the time to sit there and stew over objective bullshit. They're busy dressing the kids for school, taking the dog out and making sure the boss gets his reports on time.
There's such a minority of those w/'appreciation' for something that is finely crafted... and for some reason, we let the critics of such people and their work get to us.
I say.. wake up, hug your pet and children - call your mom and tell her you love her... then do something that suits your subjective desires... and then rinse and repeat if necessary.
;)
- Peter0
incogitable!
- blackspade0
did u steal that quote of me clerk ?
i keed i keed
- Blofeldt0
Is it better just see an object or will your enjoyment of the object be hightend if you have knowlegdge about it, is the question I suppose?
I think as a designer it's good to be aware of the cultural connotations of your work, after all, we all have a understanding of the difference are between say corporate design, and design for an artistic product and design accordingly. That is an element of deconstruction because you understand the implications the effect of the design will have on the audiences' acceptance of whatever it is.
I doubt any of use would say that's nonsense
- winter0
i would like to point out this thread's highlights!
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"Interpretation is the revenge of the intellect upon art" - Susan
Sontag
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"Incogitable" - PeterH
- Blofeldt0
Although a lot of arty speak is rubbish, i think it'd be wrong just to dimiss all art and design deconsruction as bollocks because of the presense of a few long words and a couple of abstract ideas.
- Blofeldt0
PS, I've not read any sontage, but suspect she's been responsible for her fair share of gobbledegook.
Have a look at her homepage quote if you're in doubt.
- clerk0
i doubt i'd appreciate a song more if i knew music theory. it's not more complicated for me. although in some cases you obviously need to know the circumstances in order to understand it better. but i could do without the "pragmatic concerns".
- JamesEngage0
I don't know if it is pretensious or not as I don't actually know what he is saying.
- winter0
the fact is that you DO appreciate it more. Same goes to painting, etc. If that's a good painting before you, of course.
If you know the circumstances of, say, Schubert and his time, his ideas, etc, you certainly have a deeper and greater look.
I certainly agree with blofelt.
although i think they we're just trying to create the metrocarpenter concept.
- Jnr_Madison0
I concur.
- lowimpakt0
he has spent ages educating himself and has a solid foundation in the prinples of architecture and furniture design but now he's into exploring form and artisic conventions to his work
"circuitous education" may mean he's a little dumb actually
- Blofeldt0
Good effort lowimpact, and i'd say you've probably made more sense out of that than what was actually written. To say 'pragmatic concerns' could mean at least two things if you assume he means it in a philispohical sense (guess who just went to dictionary.com), both of which would be valid. It could be the understanding of the therioes or the way they practically solve problems. But because he hasn't defined which one he means it doesn't really give a clear view of what he means.
I'd still say he was talking a load of old bollocks in order to sound clever, arty and to make himeself sound generally great and educated.
- vespa0
i know what you mean but it's not that hard is it? not an especially well constructed sentence. translation:
"My work is the result of a round the houses education and builds from the general-public-proof concerns of architecture and furniture design to the arty farty preoccupations of sculpture."
- Kuz0
cool, furniture that makes you fink.
- vespa0
haha Mr Lemond needs your services as a copywriter kuz
- Kuz0
;)