Kanye Grammy Grab
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- prophet0NE
I usually don't broadcast PVNs, but how de we feel about Kanye West receiving Billboard nominations for song of the year, album of the year and best new artist?
This guy has recently admitted to pinching other artists' original material when the opportunity arose... (ala recent Scratch Magazine interview)
- ********0
he's irrelevant like the internet or space travel and now American culture is irrelevant to the maximum level of irrelevancy....
- prophet0NE0
...I meant to say 'Grammy nominations' in there...
- ********0
i think he deserves it.
- mrdobolina0
I think he is incredibly overrated.
- ********0
how is he over-rated?
his production is always on point, and his rhymes are honest. imo of course...
- mr_snuggles0
what dobs said.
- mrdobolina0
what does he do differently? not much. Just what I think nick, thats it.
- ********0
thats fair i guess. i still dig him :)
- mr_snuggles0
I don't dislike him, I think he's got skills and it's also not like this doesn't happen all the time, so whatever, I don't care about awards..
- prophet0NE0
I realize not a whole lotta NTers care about hiphop but it strikes a chord with me. Before I read the Scratch interview I had some respect for his production because he has re-kindled some of that early 90's hiphop sound and made it mainstream again.
Back then, hiphop was coming into its own and guys like Pete Rock, Native Tongues, Premier, Hieroglyphics, Diamond D, LONS, LOTU, Masta Ace, Pharcyde, etc. were crafting the sound that I hold close to my heart (in a non-ghay way). And Kanye's stuff has caught a spark of some of that and he packaged it in a way that snuck it back onto the mainstream radio. So good for him, right?
But it just seems for me that this gets overshadowed by his disrespect for other artists and his attitude as if he deserves the production praise more than guys like Premier or Madlib do.
I guess who cares what the Grammys say, but it's like the crap train is never gonna stop. I mean Usher, best (hiphop)album/record of the year?... like gag me with a spoon man.
- aliendn0
i guess they need more chipmunk soul choruses even though they've been done for a while now...but i did dig what he did with alicia key's you dont know by name, that was done well
- breed0
anyone have a link to that scratch article, id like to read it.
personally i think he's just another flash-in-the-pan hip hop producer, who will probably have decent commercial success while he's the in-thing then dissapear.
theres plenty of hip hop producers that dropped shit much hotter than kanye this year, but who will never get the attention they deserve.
- ********0
they all suck
kanye is ok producer hes not liek neptunes or timbaland damn near 10 years ago... and he knows he cant rap
if i hear anymore usher im going to kill my self and he is not cute - hes ugly - UGLY!!!!
- ********0
if i have a boy crush on usher does that make me a homersexual?
- ********0
no all the dicks u suck makes u a homosesssual... wait does that mean....?
- ********0
i figured since the grammy's is shuch a big award show, w/ a generally white audience, ie the stars, hiphop wouldnt mean so much, and i doubt their council looks deeply into hiphop.
so to say, money is what gets you a grammy, now consider the fact that kanye fucked w/ every hot rapper damn near.
whatever tho
i dont see him as a stellar rapper/producer, cause he's not thee best rapper out, he's not even close, and to me, if you make beats, you should be a super rapper, point blank...but anyway, he's no different then pharrell or liljon
they come a dime a dozen.
but rapper/producers are just now getting light...
- prophet0NE0
i agree - your on point son.
well except for the beatmakers should be sharp emcees part.
i mean premier is the primo example of 'i don't give a shit about his mc skills' because always comes correct. i mean anyone who appreciates hiphop's architects knows he helped build the damn cathedral.
amen.
you're right though, nowadays, dime a dozen with a few standouts. for me, madvillainy was the year's standout lp. it's one of those rare 'what the hell is this?', at first, then you listen again and again. eventually, you can listen to it front to back and never feel bored with it. that's a special feeling all the groovy kids can get with.
- mr_snuggles0
I think there are a lot of standouts around today. Madvillainy was just one of the many great lp's to drop over the past 2 years, that have brought back some of the old school and early 90's values and inventiveness.
I think a lot of us that grew up during the golden era have become jaded bitter-cynics when it comes to the new artists emerging from the "underground" of the mid-late '90's. I've always tried to keep my ear to the ground for hot new shit and I haven't been disappointed in the quality of hip hop for at least the past 8 years.
Hip hop has branched out into to so many sub-categories and styles, it's a music form that has truly evolved incredibly since it's beginnings. It's unfortunate because there are so many ignorant listeners out there that don't bother to dig for new sounds. And a lot that just don't consider some of these new sounds and forms as legitimate hip hop music.
But then again, I'm a nearing 30 year old white guy, so what do I really know?!?
- hiphoprelic0
It's good to see someone with style and truth in word get recognized in hip-hop, especially in a time when Lil John and bling this and I'm poppin' crys that lyrics are mucking up the air waves.
- aliendn0
wise words snugs