Kanye Grammy Grab
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- rise0
kanye = the hardest working man in the business. (hiphop business.)
followed closely by little jon, but yeah, other then that... no one is producing the volume of hits that kanye is, shit, he should get an award for being number one so many damn times.
- black-marmalade0
Yo Son, seen your wack deviant art site. Face up and get a real site dog. And you putting a link to a gif of my shirt is dumb kid. Think about the name of my clothing line and then think of the shit on the shirt. That's what's up.
- prophet0NE0
wow, this thread went from neato opinions to race issues, etc...
well, the point of the thread was here is a guy who is receiving all this praise and profit - albeit from a fake plastic awards show and other media - and has openly admitted to stealing creative work from another 'artist' for himself.
factor this with the fact that a number of other hiphop producers like premier could eat this guy alive in the creative production dept.
it just seems like another setback for real hiphop. but maybe not cause who really cares(?) what they say...
i guess i just got the 'no' feeling about it and wanted to hear what y'all thought. good responses though.
- mrdobolina0
honkeys did alot for hiphop, without them theindustry wouldnt have a tenth of the sales they do now, thus the distribution wouldnt be as large. thus you would hear less. granted it would probably be alot better, but you see what Im saying.
- mr_snuggles0
Ok, well, I am truly sorry you feel that way :( But I'm not sure if you really do? I'm not disputing the facts, just your conclusion.
- ********0
k_orr
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37540 posts Nov-28-04, 03:23 PM (EST)
Subj: “10 steps to perfection”1. Hip Hop was created by 1 guy - Kool Herc (black)
2. The next 2 important dj’s - are AFRIKA Bambatta and Grand Master Flash (both black)
3. Graffiti - is conceptually hard to link with the 1520 Sedgwick Avenue party. - so any non-black folks in graffiti - pretty much don’t count - when it comes to the development of rap music.
4. B-Boying - fell by the way side in the early 80’s, eliminating the large non-black contingent
5. Djing - fell by the way side in the late 80’s. So the development of turntablism (by many non-blacks), although important to dj’ing, is no longer important to hip hop as a whole.
6. Hip Hop for all practical purposes is now 1) rap music and 2) the context that it is created in.
7. Vast majority of all the important mc’s in hip hop history are black.
8. Black mc’s often times talk about topics that specifically pertain to issues of blackness.
9. When black mc’s rhyme about other things not specifically black (say poverty), they rhyme about it from a black perspective and use language, despite poverty being everywhere on the globe.
10. Black mc’s don’t envision non blacks when composing their rhymes, nor do black producers envision non-blacks when creating their beats.Therefore, hip hop is made by blacks for blacks.
got that from http://www.fwmj.com/word/
- mrdobolina0
yo marmalade, you from milwaukee also? that makes me, you and ricstultz
- ********0
black marmalade, you watched Bamboozled a little too much
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have you ever seen a blueeyed devil? i mean in person?
- ********0
this just in from the dave chappelle show
the black party makes a trade w/ the white party TheMatrix in exchange for Kanye West
kanye can not dress either,
he is waaaaaaaaay over rated.
- aliendn0
dont turn it into a color issue, that's stupid, and i say that as a colored person
i do agree that there is a tendency in the media to do such things....but my comments on kanye personally stem from a love of a musical perspective...he's getting credit that a lot of others deserve
i think elvis is a ripper too, but there are other artist that got "inspired" from such blues musiicians as well and did a good job of it. even hip hop in its beginnings took samples from rock. and krs one said something insightful as the japanese are as much responsible for hip hop as if they hadn't produced those turntables (an essential element) well u know....so i got no problems about people getting inspired from other musicians as long as they give them props, i dont think elvis was one of those people that did...it would be stupid for me to say coltrane was a rip off of east indian music cause he explored those type or rhythms in his experiments of music...so that's all im saying
anyhow im arguing a slew of unrelated points, i'l shut up.
- ********0
uh - this has nothing to do with race.
- BonSeff0
elvis?
everybody knows marty mcfly went back in time and started the rock movement at the high school dance and chuck berry's cousin rippped it.
- mrdobolina0
black, so using your logic everyone has to love him because
a. he is black
b. he is successfulwhatever happened to just thinking someone sucks?
- black-marmalade0
Stop being haters. Damn. Leave the man alone. It seems that once a Black person gets famous that he gets hated on. I think the real question here is what do we think about Elvis. I mean damn, he stole rock and role and blues from us.
- ********0
grammys? what are those? they should just be called the Clear Channel Profit Gala
- BonSeff0
grammys are for the "artists" that grace the wal-mart end caps
- ********0
i said rapper/producer
not producer,
primo doesnt rap, so he's not a rapper/producer
kanye raps and produces, hence rapper/producer
so in that case, he should be super, which he is not
but oh well
- brandelec0
weak rhymes
overrated
okay beatsnext
- pylbug0
Kanye's not the first person to speed up his samples, nor is he the first producer to bite other artists' work. Then again, the Grammy Awards have never been revolutionary either; it's an elaborate display of the music industry patting itself on the back. Kanye is too full of himself to keep my interest, and his production is recognized for the way it sells, not the way it sounds.
- zanetate0
Kanye deserves it. He's a damn good producer, and a good MC too. (I mean, Through the Wire was literally through the wire.) And he puts out a positive message. We need recognition of that, when you hear so much meaningless Crunk all the time.
By the way, I think Usher deserves it too. He's a good R&B singer and will probably be around for a while. He just needs to stay away from Lil Jon.