< War on Graffiti
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- ********0
Yeah! I got teh AIDS in Africa. But I'm serious, I'm 31 and close to buying into a business with hard-earned, saved money. If I catch some skater-punks doing it to my building, I chase them with a bat or whatever blunt object I can find. Grow up.
- ********0
haaaaa, on that note, I used to be a slacker skater/snowboarding punk and I probably deserved to have my ass beat about once a week.
- MLPROJECT0
I'm still a snowboarding punk and love every minute of it.
- ********0
tee hee, well I enjoy it every so often, 10 years of it and about 15 of skating, but you get older and find less time. But the tagging art, property destruction thing has to go out the window.
- rasko40
pffff too funny
- mrdobolina0
Jazx, you flip-flopper... ;)
- vespa0
"They say there "appears to be a link between litter and graffiti... and drug peddling, muggings and burglary". "
Could that link be that they all happen in socially deprived areas? ie they are all possible outcomes of people growing up in poverty? in which case reducing graffiti (which in my opinion is sometimes a fantastically positive artistic expression, as well as often being shite) is hardly going to reduce drug peddling, muggings and burglary.
That's like saying ok we've discovered an important link between bloody marys, spaghetti bolognaise and a certain critically acclaimed uk design agency. (hint: the link is "tomato"). The govt has discovered that thousands of bloody marys are drunk every week at the huge social cost of people taking days off sick with hangovers. Therefore they've decided to ban spaghetti bolognaise, close down Tomato UK and rename Tomato Sauce to Red Sauce in order to preemptively prevent the possibility of an epidemic of deviant tendencies being unwittingly fostered in fertile breeding grounds such as chip shops and supermarket condiment aisles.
- rasko40
werd v
- meok0
I dont think anybody would have a problem with graffiti if only these "artists" do it on their own shit. It just sucks having to have your walls sanded over and over again. Fuck its like me running aroung with a ink gun tattooing my name on people's body.
- GreedoLives0
it's unfair to lump all graffiti into one group. there are many different people in it for a wide variety of reasons.
you got your bored teenagers out to fuck shit up, genuine heads out to put up murals, gang graffiti declaring their turf, etc
you can complain about it all you want but unless you put a cop on every corner all night it's not going to stop. that's part of the appeal, really, to get past johnny law and get up. and if they did put a cop on every corner, maybe my car wouldn't get stolen every six months, or maybe my buddy wouldn't have gotten stabbed in the back for the six dollars in his pocket.here in boston they've taken to forming a youth group every summer that paints about 4-5 murals a year to cover up heavily-graffitied spots. the murals themselves aren't graff, they're more scenes regarding the character of the neighborhood. they're quite beautiful and they would've never formed if there hadn't been a graffiti problem. and the graffiti kids have enough respect to stay away from them. i consider that a positive outcome.
plus, think of all the stylistic elements that have come out of graffiti that have been soaked up by the design/advertising world like a dry sponge. kids do it, ad agencies appropriate it to sell them shoes, advertising ruins the entire form, kids go out and invent something new or change the form. the cycle continues.
by cleaning it up, you're providing fresh canvas.
- ********0
I'm like John Kerry:
*Jazx, you flip-flopper... ;)
mrdobolina
(aug 2 04, 09:40);)
- ********0
I dont think anybody would have a problem with graffiti if only these "artists" do it on their own shit. It just sucks having to have your walls sanded over and over again. Fuck its like me running aroung with a ink gun tattooing my name on people's body.
meok
(aug 2 04, 10:03)exactly
- JamesEngage0
People think that by doig grafitti they hard the hard done by, and make a statement... Don't they ever think it is just as hard to get yourself recognized through the 'correct' (for want of a better word) channels?
- ********0
interesting
- GreedoLives0
but, see, they're not looking for respect from you, they're looking for respect from other writers.
- ********0
yeah and at the same time violating laws and being punks, hehhee
- MLPROJECT0
greedo, but think of it as parallel to making it in the real world. designers aren't necessarily looking for respect from writers either.
i think it could even be harder in graffiti sometimes... but you can go further in design
- Soler0
If I owned a business and my walls looked like crumbling, gray painted over, dirty-alley scumbag shitballs I would deserve to have someone do a piece.
the thing is, I'm not that knida guy and I would make my place of business look decent.
THEn, if these graf-heads fuct with it- they get the smack down.
- ********0
THEn, if these graf-heads fuct with it- they get the smack down.
Soler
(aug 2 04, 11:58)yeah if you invested a lot of money into it and lived off of it, for sure! Screw that!
- GreedoLives0
like you'll catch them, genius.