< War on Graffiti
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- mrlerone
Is this post meant sarcastically? Is someone saying those 'suits' are 'square' for trying to stop people from spraying meaningless shit all over buildings they don't own?
- ********0
chut it
Yeah rasko, i read something on this in one of the tabloids other days. Pompous cunts who dont have a clue what they're talking about
- winter0
aye they are. don't worry. all fashions die away. you just need to invent a new set of trousers.
- winter0
graffiti is imposing and wrong. it's arrogant and it's not so good an art. in fact, it's a self-called art thing.
- mrlerone0
What don't they have a clue about?
What is there to get about Graffiti?
Oh right, you're, like, shaping the urban jungle with your fucking stencil prints of soldiers and teenage 'poetry'?
Twats...
- mrlerone0
Didn't mean to call that last chap a twat. He was nice.
Sorry.
- smellvetica0
just saw this onbbc news, absolutely rediculous. they're spending 27 million quid a year cleaning it up apparently.
why don't they spend more money on fighting real crime and put aside cash for development courses/youth scemes for creative kids in the cities in run down areas? they could make it a graf-zone which could be then looked upon as an art in situ project.
or they could fight real rime of course. mind you tagging is pretty shit.
- ********0
haha! yeah ok i'm convinced.
I'll go to the Tate or something, go see proper art. Or like to some corporate headquarters and see the sculptures in their lobbies.Or some public library with their big Henry Moore things that they all have.
- rasko40
you're not worth the keystrokes you fucking lamers, winter I get quite bored of reading your self righteous bollocks all the time, fucking miserable waste of space you are, just what is it that makes you so fucking correct about everything? seems like a load of utter opinionated crap to me.
What the fuck is 'self called' art? Another one of your fisher price sound bytes I guess, certainly not a 'fact' as you call it, whihch you would know if you actually had any knowledge of the subject.
- smellvetica0
huh? easy rasko.
- smellvetica0
you've got a point. (just read previous posts)
- ********0
LOL
so eloquent rasko ;)
- k0na_an0k0
so a little spray paint on someone elses building is cool right?!?
what if you found that spray paint on your car some morning? i bet you'b be pretty pissed too wouldn't you?
why don't they tag their own shit? i mean fuck, instead of going all over town taggin buildings why don't they just tag their own homes and cars and driveways?
- pascii0
c'mon
it's summer and they need to prove that they are doing something for their money.
you can't stop the movement
simple as that
'edgy' :-)
- ********0
I was into graffiti when I was younger and had a pretty good local rep. As I got older I realized how childish and insignificant writting a fiticous name all across town is.
Most graffiti is not art- or at least an art anyone besides the so called artist and his crew- and rival crews- care to look at.
It is a crime... you are defacing other people's property.
One of my friends was seen spaying on this guy's mechanic shop when we were young. The owner knew him and his family. Instead of calling the police- the owner went to my friends house and spayed the name of his shop on their garage.
- mrlerone0
Yeah man...
...I'm like an anti-corporate website designer. Dude. I'm sure glad I'm not in advertising, cos Bll Hicks said that that was bad.
Wallies.
Graffiti makes people frightened to live in certain areas. It is a fucking crime. It encourages areas to develop where other crimes are commited too. It's called 'tagging' for fucks sake, claiming ownership. It involves little shits trying to claim parts of the city for themselves, like a load of cats pissing their scent on things.
It's not like all cities are only frequented by mid-20s designers, all trying to look like C2DE's...
Je-sus.
- MLPROJECT0
i'm with rasko 100%.
you people will never understand graffiti, where it comes from, and how much influence it has. just because it's on a building doesn't make it art. what the fuck are you talking about 'self called art?' that's 100% of the gallery world. i've seen stuff with way less passion, often trying to immitate what graffiti has.
beyond illegal graffiti, what do you have to say about the countless permission walls people paint? is that still talentless "self called art?"
i find this especially surprising coming from a bunch of designers - aren't you supposed to obsess over letterforms, typograhy, compositon and an impecible sense of style?
- pascii0
ugly gray walls are more a crime to humanity. btw, what the fuck? graffitti supports crime?
- k0na_an0k0
there is a huge difference to the epic wall paintings on designated walls and the shit 'tagged' on buildings with peoples street names.
i've seen shit painted on church walls. wtf is that?!? just cause it's a big brick wall it's fair game?
when i see a train go by yeah, the shit is cool, or on buildings, yeah, from a design standpoint it's pretty damn cool, but when you think that that's someones property who is just like you and me, trying to make a living. it's bullshit. i would go out of my mind mad if some shithead kept tagging my business' walls on a weekly or nightly basis.
- speed_d0
graffiti without permission is a crime, through the process of "tagging" it encourages other groups to "tag" other areas perpetuating the problem which results in supporting crime...
graffiti with permission is not a crime, but I do not believe it is art. The people that create it may have some artistic skill but from what I have seen in NYC there is no exploration of different styles making it look all the same...not very artistic is it?
- MLPROJECT0
Take into consideration there are idiots in the game that will paint small businesses, homes, churches and personal property. that's another story.
driving down the highway and seeing a couple freshly painted pieces starts my day off right.