Today Fahrenheit 9/11
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- mikotondria20
yeah, the whol polar political system just does my head in..
I am a 'libertarian' on the one hand, I want smaller government, more personal freedoms, lower taxation, more privacy, etc..
BUT
Being european, I want a National Health Service, and a welfare safety net....stricter gun laws etc.Noone will ever get on the ticket with those 'opposing' viewpoints, and I consequently cannot vote my conciense for either party.
Sean Hannity is an arse, too.
- sputnik0
we're on the same page, miko!
- lilbabyarm0
regardless of whether any of you fucknuts consider liberals whiners etc is not the issue... So quit the distractions and let's talk about the points that the movie raises. Just what exactly do you feel is a lie should be the point of this discussion... Instead all you conservatives are whining about liberals. C'mon now. sheesh.
give it your best shot. what is moore lieing about huh huh huh?
- Gabbletrosh0
Well i have not seen the movie yet but these are the claims: http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/…
- atomica0
Haven't seen it yet, I'll wait til it's done downloading. Just remember kids, its not a documentary in any form. It's edited, it's biassed, its from a single entity. I'll wait to watch. And i hate that remark about the republicans being sheep. Umm, you did just say people were cheering and crying in masses for a Michael Moore movie. lol.
- mikotondria20
mmm....doesnt sound like the movie I saw..
- sputnik0
'nuff said
- nick0
"To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of "dissenting" bravery."
HOLY FUCK!!! HAHAHAHA!
i guess this guy wasn't feeling it.. i look forward to seeing it, personally.
ps: there have been some great posts in this thread. :)
- lilbabyarm0
did you even bother to read that article? can you please enlighten me as to where it states that he lied and what the lies were? I could find nothing.
- brundlefly0
I as well could not find anything.
- unsexypixel0
Its terrible that you are downloading his movie, you are robbing him of a livelyhood.
where'd you download it. I tried suprnova and direct connect. no joy. email me from my profile if you can.
- lilbabyarm0
gain access to this movie in any way possible. I for one am going to see this movie at least another 4 times!
- unsexypixel0
its not out here yet, wont be for a while
- unfittoprint0
[Reagan Voice]: Mr. God, please tear down this president!
The Essential Dishonesty of Christopher Hitchens
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?a…
- kpl0
christopher hitchens is a blowhard who embraces liberal thought one year and the next starts using it as a dirty word.
he's not qualified to give a objective analysis of the film.
- brundlefly0
oh snap unfit...brilliant
- Bozilla0
lilbabyarm,
that's exactly the point in all articles shitting all over Moore. Even with Columbine I couldn't find a direct influental source that confirmed so called lies. I'm sorry, but it's true, all they do is cross link several totally subjective sites as proof :) wtf!
That's how these people operate and continue to do what they want with this country and it's people. They have the media, the corporations and all that. Nobody ever questions anything that's being said on news or by some person on TV or in the newspapers. All it takes is to be said "That's not true" or "We prevailed in War on Terrorism" and everybody believes it. That's the most frightening thing, and this movie points to exactly that among the "beautiful" expression of Bush Jr and of course Ashcroft's live concert, a man who has been beaten by a dead guy in elections :)
My personal favorite from a movie:
"We are a very strong coalition, we are winning the war on terror...and now watch this drive" :) hahahahaah a moron.
- brundlefly0
tell me somebody got this photo
- abizzyman0
boz.... it was a good drive though.
(hahahaha)
Just saw the film ... now all I can say is that one needs to be subjective and verify what they saw.
There was definetly specualation and use of emotional outburst to relay mr. moore's points.
I was a bit astonished at just how deep the ties to saudia arabia are with some of America's big business... and how much that big business is tied to the gov. in power right now.
The 'speculation' in question would be the quick flash of the Cigarettes - pointing to cigarette companies fronting money etc... but NO PROOF was given. When you try to make a point... and YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB... don't throw crap in there like the 'cigarette shot'. That's speculation - but unfortunetly will be taken as proof to many who view the film.
I enjoyed it - very much a reminder of man's greed and lack of love and care for their fellow man - ON BOTH SIDES of the issue.
Of course the film was hardcore liberial - with only points from the liberial viewpoint - so this is a biased movie. No matter how true or false the claims may be.
Overlall... two thumbs up - informative, entertaining...
.. but be subjective when watching this. Go home and think about this - and even research some of the items that were more 'claims' than fact. That's what I'm doing at least.
cheers.
- magicpatch0
t-30 minutes!