Emo? WTF?
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- ********0
mg, I bet blink182 busted their balls just like most bands to become successful.
- ********0
OMG!
EMO=HOMO=LMFAOLOLROFL
- sauerbraten0
pavement is up there also. jeremy enigk has a special place in my heart, although his solo stuff was far from emo it's quite good:
- DutchBoy0
i swear i never understood that emo thing..
completely missed it.. seriously.
what does it mean.
(can't be arsed to read all the replies here..)
- cre2done0
it doesn't matter what the music is, just wear a backpack all the time and cry at shows. or just live in columbus, oh.
- ********0
Ha ha ha! :D
- illdesign0
EMOs always been around. Its just a marketing/industry term that people deem a "movement". Wasnt REM emo? What about "grunge". Its all trend.
- sauerbraten0
the word 'emo' nowadays (and honestly i thought we were past it) is utterly overused and completely out of context.
i'm no expert on the subject but it's widely known that the term is derived from 'emotional rock' and it does not apply to contemporary popsters like Dashboard Confessional or All American Rejects.. REM is not emo, Radiohead is not emo, U2 is not emo, NIN is not emo, Korn is not emo, and so on.. as mentioned before bands like Sunny Day Real Estate, Pavement, Seaweed are more what is considered EMO, this was all in the early-to-mid 90's. oh and sonic youth is also not emo.
Indie bands are often dubbed EMO for no apparent reason, it's a completely overused and dilluted term. JayZ's latest record is like sooo EMO!
- illdesign0
So emo has become a useless, meaningless way to describe something.
- ********0
- illdesign0
Emo is annoying, trends are annoying. This turd that wont come out of my ass is annoying.
- ********0
emo is when the straightedge kids from the late 80's got stoned.
- cinder0
Emo is a term accurately describing Rites of Spring, Moss Icon and bands of that sort.
Sunny Day could probably be related to that original stuff - but they're really not *real* "emo*
They're about 2 steps off, whereas all these terrible nu-emo bands, Story ofthe Year, etc are very, very far from the ideology and even the sound.Most of these nu-emo, or false-emo bands are just attempting to jock the short-lived underground movement - but even THOSE bands (old saves the day, Braid, promise ring, capn' jazz, etc) were inspired by Sunny Day, Mineral, etc
It's really a progression of punk, to hardcore, to emo to emo-pop to what basically amounts to last years mall-punk with screaming.
At the Drive-In was more directly influenced by real Emo - but they weren't just imitators. They had a lot of influences like prog, and pop which are a lot more evident in their current bands (Sparta and The Mars Volta)
Dashboard is really not related to any of these things at all.
Chris' previous band, Further Seems Forever (Check out The Moon Is Down) definitely fell into the emo-pop category but even that is a pretty gross generalization.
Anyway - I don't see how you can make any correlation at all between a lone pop-folk singer/song writer and a melodic hardcore band.
Granted, he was related to that scene (opened for friggin Snapcase and other hardcore bands, believe it or not)
His stuff was basically, bleeding heart breakup music with diary-lyrics. And his big thing was crowd participation. Now it just seems trite - but it really was his goal in the begining (and it was a lot cooler before it was 500 fat 16 year old girls - there used to be a fairly varied crowd at his shows)
but, now, of course - getting bigger means you need a bigger sound, so he's turned DC into a full band. I don't think the goal is quite the same any more.Anyway, what's happening now is that tons of indie bands are getting bigger, and to better market it - the media finds it easier to lump it all together into a general category called "emo" which has no relation at all to the actual meaning of the term.
(just like the term "Country" is applied to the pop-twang shit on CMT which is NOT true country like old Johnny Cash)and no, Radiohead, U2, NIN blah blah are not emo and dont even sound remotely like false-emo, pop-emo, or real emo and are in no way related to those punk descendants.
If you look back at a term like "grunge" - those bands really don't have a ton in common other than some of their location (Seattle - Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Melvins).
They all have vastly different sounds and influences. I don't think there is really a problem with any morons calling them grunge anymore. The good bands will stand for themselves.Hell, even hardcore has been coopted.
It was never about being big, or making money or being signed or beating the shit out of kids who aren't from Boston - it was about community, community building and trying to affect mainstream society.Regardless, there are still plenty of bands out there that are pushing punk and hardcore to the edge, they're just harder to find sometimes.
The biggest problem are kids who soak up the music but don't do shit to support the community.
- illdesign0
"The biggest problem are kids who soak up the music but don't do shit to support the community."
Capitalist pigs.
- nokati0
Epitonic has some good free mp3's of your standard emo rock:
http://www.epitonic.com/cgi-bin/…Check out Cap'n Jazz ... an oldtime
favorite from my town.
- mg330
nice post cinder.
- fake_it_up0
em is when straightedge kids got stoned...HAHAHAHAHAH SOOO FREAKING awsome...ahahha....
-mint
- jevad0
cinder that was bloody brilliant mate!
- mg330
Can't remember if anyone posted this:
