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- blackspade0
yea this is very small project and is far from selling anything out
thanks all those who emailed me options
im using a few of em in mockups and will let u know how it goes
thanks NT you r my friend
- brundlefly0
don't you think hip hop sells itself out?
I don't see what the big deal is, or even could be.
- agentfour0
well with people like justin timberlake and kid rock thinking they are hip hop, it probably does.
But places like McDonalds, coke, etc etc etc using sub-cultures to hock their wares, are definately the major culprits.
- blackspade0
i totally feel where the guy is comming from though, i just dont think im using it in such a way that is selling out graffiti,
- Momentum0
but hey speaking from someone in that culture....mcdonalds and coke is part of the culture....when your hungry and you wanna grub its usually mciddies and coke
- agentfour0
how many hip hop gigs do you see sponsored by McDonalds?
they dont do shit to support it. They just ride the bandwagon and bail once the culture is no longer 'mainstream cool' and catch the next wagon driving by.
- sexypixel0
its called marketing.. and most of us, like it or not, work for the fuckers. so... i guess we have to deal with it.
nothing good can stay underground for long
- bug0
yeah, what sexy said...
- davetufts0
> tagging is fucken ugly anyway.
> but i do love and respect good
> grafittigrafitti IS tagging.
...are these not the most beautiful things you've ever seen:
- GreedoLives0
Props to snob!
u go booooiieee!
- davetufts0
yeah mr. snob - that's nice
- blackspade0
ill post a url wit the options so far :)
- sexypixel0
this is nice
http://grorg.org/photos/2003/01/…
this is not
http://grorg.org/photos/2003/01/…
spitting sucks and tagging is ugly on public property, just my opinion
- blackspade0
preferences?
http://webdev3.otago.ac.nz/~phut…
i know its hard to say without seeing it in relation to the poster
- blackspade0
please excuse # 2 its not shitty like that in the vector version, i just rushed it
- davetufts0
1 or 3
- ad10
haven't read all the thread -its late and i'm pissed.
but tis good that we help each other and fuck the precious ones who think they speak a secret language - they write so we read - art direction is art direction. be pleased that someone digs your shit.Blackspade - good on you for taking the time, whatever you get from it.
"like vaughn bodie i'm the cheech wizard...."
- _roh0
im glad to see that some people knew where i was going, and blackspade for being a champ and not flying off the handle (like some people did)
sure if you feel using a graff style layout is relevant and coherant in the context of the job > go for it, but do it right, know what can do, if you cant write, hook up with a dope writer, dont try and rely on people in a message board to hook you up, if you havent got the tools rethink the approach, because people will know if its faked.
i find nothing wrong with what your doing, but i just think everything should be thoroughly thought about, just because its highschool kids, doesnt mean it HAS to be graffiti styled, that shits been peddled for ages.
and as for 'marketing' FUCK IT. if all these people with totally different jobs are doing the same thing (ie, food companies, tampon companies) then it is obviously NOT being used in a correct context, two different jobs with different markets/messages/products/audien... CANNOT LOOK THE SAME
fuck trends and fuck marketing bullshit, works should be based on the idea and the concept, not the look thats popular.
peace.
- _roh0
tagging IS graffiti, theres no getting around it.
whicheverway you look at it, its up to the viewer to decide whether they like it or not. you think writers care whether you like there tags or not?
its all about expression of self, tagging, stickering, postering... not about you, the viewer
- sexypixel0
hip hop is a trend