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- vena0
i think you're making assumptions. i didn't say i don't explain what 5.0+ means, nor did i say i don't show them a variety of statistics showing who's excluded by such an action (i often even try to get other companies in their market to cough up their stats).
it's just that it doesn't matter. when they come back and say "it doesn't work on so-and-so's computer," and you say, "we had this agreement," to which they reply, "i don't care, it should work," they're a pain in the ass.
- lowimpakt0
this is why i didnt want to get bogged down on this because i thought it might be a misread of your thread. if we want to do something with a site that we know isnt widely accessible we let the client know clearly (especially on intranets and the like).
but it the site doesnt require anything special code-wise we dont put it in. because there are too many situations like the www.cingular.com. the site is pretty basic so shouldnt cause any problems which it clearly does.
- vena0
ok, well a few questions/comments...
first, why ask for a conversation if you don't want it?
second, there should be no compatability problems on an intranet since they're controlled environments. that's kinda par for the course. there's situations with very small company intranets where the employees' pcs are not controlled, but in that case you do what you do for the web, shoot for the highest majority and work down from there as the client and budget allow.
third, ignoring compatability with 5 year old browsers, the cingular problem seems entirely unique to your pc.
- lowimpakt0
i wanted to end the conv. because we are talking about different things ultimately.
I said we can push things and experiment a bit more with intranet because its a controlled environment. but pushing unneccessary trials onto websites is a bit over-eager.
Back to cingular - i get a different range of bugs with Opera than with IE and i just reckon if you designed the site (you didnt did you) its your responibility to know why its screwey and how to fix it. I dont know any client that would be happy telling puzzled customers that they need pull their heads out of their ass and update their browsers etc. because we wanted to try some new code etc.
- vena0
oh well opera's a totally different animal :) i didn't design the site, and like i said it's nowhere near standards compliant (which opera is near 100%). i was referring to your crash.
perhaps i've just been fortunate enough to have clients that understand me when i tell them how their site won't and can't be able to please all of the people on the internet and continue to be the design they want.
- monNom0
the page has rendering issues for me... OS 9/ IE 5.0
some of the images get tiled when scrolling....
- lowimpakt0
but you explain the pifalls to your client and obviously design impressive sites. maybe im old-skool but i think good design practice is very important.
- lowimpakt0
we've opened a can of worms on the bug issue by the looks of it ;)