P2P
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- dgtl_rchtct
i love it. i can get music, software, fonts, games, movies, etc. all a single click away.
does anyone think file sharing will ever end? are people making software that will stop files from being shared?
i'm just excited cause i just finished watching shaolin soccer. funny movie. :)
thank you P2P.
- Pixelgraft0
P2P has got so many people interested in it that it will evolve to get round most restrictions imposed on it.
It's here to stay...
- unknown0
ever feel guilty about it though?
- Pixelgraft0
I don't use P2P. I don't have the connection and if I did I think, as I straddle various creative fields, I'd be a hipocrite to do it... how could I ever get angry about people illegally distributing my stuff if I did it myself to other people's? It's a question. However, being able to get all the latest stuff for free is a huge temptation...
- Danski0
P2P cannot die. The free distribution of media is too important when you weigh it up against the alternatives.
So long as you're honest with yourself about how the industry works, that is.
- unknown0
it depends... i have a full time job, and all my apps at work are fully paid versions of the programs. on my mac at home (at work im on a pc) i have several programs i'm running that i didn't pay for. i use them for personal projects, or the occasional freelance project that comes up. however, if i made my living off of freelancing, i'd most likely go out and purchase all the tools and write it off on my taxes. Since I'd be making real money from using the products, it's only right that i would pay for them. I think it depends on the situation, as to whether or not you should or would feel guilty about it.
- unknown0
that's like saying it's ok to go into a computer store and steal packaged software because you don't use it for commercial projects... only difference is you're more likely to be caught.
- unknown0
P2P is one of the greatest thing on the net... and free : that's the thing.. when everyone and anyone wants to make cash out of every single pixel, ¨P2P is here to remind us that we don't own everything, and things must be shared.. wetehr it's yours or not.. and multi billions dollars companies will try to kill that and feed us like PIGS like Apple withe their 99c titles... but i hope it will remain free and popular : accessible to everyone ...
- Pixelgraft0
With freelancers, you get the type who save and scrape for software and can't take on jobs because the can't afford the software - such as 3D jobs where using, say, 3DS max where a small job may not even cover the price of the software.
Then you get the type who download all the software illegally, and can take on all manner of jobs, and as a result have more experience in the higher-end programs...
So they have more skills and more money...
But one's legal, the other isn't...
- unknown0
yeah..mmmm
at the same time i remember that i was trading and dl software much more before P2P... P2P just bring it to the masses, but it has always been there...
and i think when you are a professional you have to have the tools : P2P has absolutely nothing to do with what you should do or can do etc...
it's like if ur mixing some music for a nice project you won't pick samples from flashkit.com..
the problem of buying software has always been there for freelance people.. now and 10 years ago..
- Pixelgraft0
But I'd wager on average the people trading with illegal software charge less (well, they can). Thus making it even harder to do it the "proper" way.
I still think people who do it the "bad" way can end up with more skills though!
- unknown0
no, thats not like saying that at all stylejunky. if i were to steal the packaged version of a product there would be physical theft involved.. that would include manuals and a legit copy of the cd. with P2P you're making a copy of someone else legit software (unless you're cracking trial versions, which i've never seen for mac). As I said, if I made my living doing freelance, then i would purchase the tools to do the job... otherwise they would've never made any money off of me anyway.
- unknown0
but i do own a legit copy of mx studio for my mac!
- dgtl_rchtct0
right or wrong, P2P has allowed many people to branch out and find new avenues of music, programs, and other things.
P2P philanthropy is the most effective way for people to change careers, music genre's or simply looknig for something their company won't buy them.
to argu it as a negative is useless. there was a time when our economy was doing ok. need for P2P sharing was obsolete. But as economy weakened, individuals began realizing the purchasing $$$ software just did not fit into the now extremely tight budget. this you had CD swapping. call upa few friends, ask if you knew someone with PS or IL and presto you all meet up and trade CD's. free of course.
P2P just took this model further by allowing the folk with tight budgets and empty wallets to still make it. Plus, for the music fan it opened a whole new world for people that just liked the one song...which wasn't released as a single, nor worth the money to buy entire album.
all in all, the people i don't have respect for are those that make phat wads of money and have the time to get the programs but simply don't out of greed. i would argue that that is roughtly 5-8% of the market. the rest of us are broke wankers that just need a fix every now and again.
- rebooted0
If it wasn't for file shairing I would have never got experience with PhotoShop, Flash, DW or may others.
To get a job in this industry you gotta have the knowledge behind the tools and thats the reason I downloaded them.
A student gets a discount from Macromedia but the average Joe at home in his bedroom/study cannot afford to go out and buy all these tools.Make them affordable and maybe people will be tempted but with P2P software houses inflate their prices to supposedly compensate for these "thefts"
It's a no win situation...IMO
- Danski0
If you're a professional, should you pay for the softs you use? Fuck yes, of course you should.
If you're a first-time user? You don't know if you'll be any good at photoshop? You know it's going to take more than thirty days? Fuck no. That's not worth 700 notes.
If you turn out to be good at it, buy the software. If you go pro, buy the software. Otherwise, it doesn't make a difference.
- unknown0
I pretty much agree... all I'm saying is technically it's stealing.
Whether it's from a big corporation or from a small band trying to earn a living - it's still stealing.
- mrdobolina0
Friday Music is stealing.
- dgtl_rchtct0
professional or not. if you buy it for yourself, kudos. if you download it for free, kudos.
the mere fact that you used the program AND wind up liking it, guarantees the possiblity for the company that you may purchase something lateer on down the road from them. i have purchased DW ultradev. when mx came out, i downloaded it.
to each his own. in essence when it comes to music and movies especially, i will download those for free. record industry pimps those musical and acting wankers, so why not pimp the recording industry. they make albums burn 'em to cd's for next to nothing, box 'em up and sell them to the consumer at almost 200+% the cost to make it. fuck that.
- Danski0
I'm not convinced by this "stealing" word. Where is the space left by what you have taken?
You've made a copy of it. If anything you're defaulting on, or failing to announce, a debt. but you're not stealing.
- lemon7140
bit torrent...yeah!