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- dgtl_rchtct
need to vet and ask for some help.
i am working on a cd-rom with another guy for a small consulting firm. lotsa cash involved and we agreed to split the work 50/50. he would do most of the design and my job would be simply to program the whole thing.
as it turns out, i have designed the whole thing, but not only that, i have:
-set up client with extranet access on my server
-arranged for all meetings and reviews with client (the other designer never shows up)
-negotiated deadlines for deliverables
-constantly engage client on status of project as well as confirming timelines for new material
-developed a good portion of the cd-rom with absolutely NO help from the other designerso i ask, dear friends, what do i do in this situation. as it stands, when all is said and done the other designer still gets half of the money. i am so frustrated right now and need some advise or just someone to listen to me vent for a sec.
*sorry for long post*
- dgtl_rchtct0
oh, also, i got involved in this gig through this guys own self run media shop. figured it would be cool to work with a guy that was up and coming.
didn't figure i would get fucked into doing everything while he walked away with money for nothing.
*furious*
- Bio0
tell him.
- Bio0
also, you need to have shit hammered out in a contract.
who does what and percentage of how the pay will be split.otherwise, if HE is the one who doles out the money, then HE is the one who decides how much you get or if you get anything.
if this is the case, you could very easeily get fucked outa the whole deal.
- Jnr_Madison0
If the guy is cool he'll realise you've done most of the work and give you a larger percentage. Is he cool?
- dgtl_rchtct0
agreed bio. i talked to him. he seems to think that he is being all inclusive. so, i am debating on walking out of the deal all together unless he comes up on some fucking work.
i've been busting my ass like a muthafucka on this shit. like for about 2-3 weeks i have tried contacting him. to no avail. even today. nothing.
i've talked to the client and he doesn't seem to understand why he has to be interacting with me when the other designer is supposedley the head honcho in all of this. client has already made it clear he does not plan to do more work with this guy.
- dgtl_rchtct0
naw, the guy is a fucker. i feel like calling his ass out on this joint, but i am going to save it. if he read this he knows who he is.
in any event, i have built an excellent rapport with the client and don't necessarily won't to just leave, but i know i am going to get fucked and don't want that to happen.
i mean shit, if i can't contact dude now, what about when it comes to payment. wil i be able to contact his ass then?
*face turning red*
- SLAZ0
i would make to clear to this "other designer"... tell him you want a bigger cut. If you didn't sign a contract....walk. Make sure to take all of the files with you. Or...keep on building your relationship with the client and the next project do for dolo. Explain to the client there seems to be a stuctural challenge going on and you plan on starting your own company after t5his project is complete. He will respect the fact that you dont want to fuck him...but again...if you dont see more work coming in the future...walk...
- dgtl_rchtct0
slaz, that sounds like an excellent plan.
- dgtl_rchtct0
wait, what about the legalities of all this? my uncle told me that a verbal agreement is upholdable in court. so, if i try to ask for more money out of the deal he said i could be in for trouble considering the fact i accepted the deal initially under the premise of a 50/50 payoff for 50/50 work.
anyone know about the legal end of doing what slaz suggested?
- Jnr_Madison0
Yes, a verbal agreement is a contract but you usually find going this route is more trouble than it's worth.
- Bio0
i would assume that in that verbal agreement, the work would be split 50/50.
what works one way, can work another.
also, i dig what SLAZ tells ya. dont dick the client, but if you are in good with them, you can probably explain what's up.
if there is no signed contract... then i dont think you can be held liable for slander or whatnots.but you'd wanna check that out with a lawyer before you take my word. oh, and fuck your "co-worker". gimme his adress, $2,000 and i will fix his kneecaps good. =)
best of luck with it all man. hope shit works out for ya!
- SLAZ0
yes, verbal agreements are upholdable in court...but you are doing all the work and even the client seems to notice this. I would say fuck him. I hold the work hostage to your partner. Who made the initial business contact with this client? Him? He is obligated to the client, not you. Make him pay you up front... The client is not going to pay you and not him..he is obligated to him first, no matter who is doing the work. Overall, you both are going to take a rap for this, just matters is you care or not. Don't use him as a reference, thats all.
Hope you learned your lesson and will have contracts from this point on!
- dgtl_rchtct0
lesson learned. thanks bio and slaz for counseling.
in the end, you are right, we both take the fall. the only positive is i noticed all the shit spiraling down and wen to the client with "possible problems."
he did get deal. so money goes through him.
we'll see what happens. *crossing fingers*
deliverable due 6/20. i'll post then...maybe sooner, and let you all know the skinny. if anyone has more advice, drop it.
again, thanks slaz and bio.