frames: the final word
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- flashsplat
Hey All,
I'm just looking for some professional opinions. Frames & framesets....good or bad? And why.
Thanks
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- jox0
why would it be bad?
- ********0
evil when used poorly.
which is often the case.
- neeko0
the final word... thats a lot of pressure.
i'll agree with:
http://www.newstoday.com/docs/sh…
- jox0
everything that's used poorly is bad...nothing to do with frames in particular.
- ********0
frames are bad. you can't bookmark and printing a page can get confusing or not possible.
I used to be a frame junkie but now I've seen the light.
coders fucking hate frames too. those goddamn purists!
- flashsplat0
Well,
A teacher I used to have was strongly against frames stating that search engines pick up crap from them (only single frames or something). So I said ok. Then I found a script that you could apply so that the frames can't be viewed individually--only in the frameset.
Personally I believe they are good if used properly. Just looking for input.
=]
- ********0
well,
some chick used to use my *#*# poorly, but it still was kinda good, so..
- jox0
see, that's what I'm trying to say!
seriously, you could have hundreds of discussions like these, just pick any web-related subject and because somebody uses it poorly it's bad?
- flashsplat0
Yeah...."the final word" does sound pretty harsh.
- Mick0
Every hardcode backend developer I've worked with hates them with a passion. It just adds to the complexity of all their coding, especially to do things right and do all the necessary checks to make sure people arn't viewing pages out of a frameset which happens often when people visit from spidered search engine pages.
- unknown0
But then coders make it their job to say 'it's too difficult'
- ********0
haha, word, engage.
- unknown0
...until... you go to them... can't you just do it like this... and then they realise they were rumbled!
- IRNlun60
frames aren't bad. too many frames are bad.
mmmkay
- unknown0
'You've Been Framed' is bad.
- Louno0
well , personaly , i dont like frames very much , but i know how to use it and will use them if i want to /is required.
Examples :
i used it recently at http://www.galerieverticale.com/… and i used them for my portfolio too.
I think the main advantage of frames is when they are used like i do . As in , to keep the content of the site always with the design ... see for example galerie verticale , those are actualy IFrames btw , well i wouldnt have used that , well then , the page with alot of content would scroll for ever and have no design visible on screen , so it would be plain text and design only at the top ... by putting the content in a Iframe , well then the design is always visible and i think it makes the boring text more enjoyable and seem less long ...
If you use frames only to have the menu always to your left, then i think its pretty gay :) well so far at least.
Btw i only would use Iframes cuz they are sooo much more fun to use than framesets.
- Louno0
and that was my Final Answer hey regis.
- badzenjt0
As with any other technology, web or otherwise, I think it all depends on how they are used.
Generally, I don't use them simply because it makes pages hard to bookmark, etc.
However, I am a proponent of the 1 pixel frame in order to store session variables and the like.
But as an interface element, I steer clear.
Just my 2 cents.
- Redmond0
I love frames, cuz the navigation doesn't have to be reloaded everytime. Having to backspace in and out of somewhere is one of my pet peeves.