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- sarahfailin-5
NYTimes Guide to Neo-Pronouns
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/…
I'm sure many QBNers (being almost entirely middle-aged, straight men) will reject this out of hand. But this idea is pretty fascinating to me, even if it poses challenges for broad use. How we are known by our pronouns changes the shape of ourselves, and it's a shape we're naturally free to shift. Why live in a single box forever?Even if they're used only by those closest to you, neopronouns seem to offer more freedom to become and be recognized. It also gets you out from under a hierarchical binary in which men (straight men) are on top.
Also there's no gender-queer thread so this is the best I could do.
- https://i.kym-cdn.co…drgs
- hahah, entirely the wrong thread and about a decade latekingsteven
- “kitten/kittenself”
“prin/cess/princesse...
How else would you get out from under a hierarchical binarydrgs - it was cool for 20 something tumblr users in 2012 now its mostly just very young autistic kids figuring themselves out.kingsteven
- when i was growing up i would watch old films set during Stalinism that tried to change pronouns. i would scratch my head trying to understand why some dude...pr2
- ...would call himself "we" (for the sake of the party).pr2
- If any of it makes you uncomfortable just opt out by using they/them. It’s inoffensive and you don’t have to learn anythingscarabin
- the point is that if you know your history (most people don't) then you recognize where this ideology comes from and it isn't a pretty place.pr2
- Are you suggesting calling a person “bunself” is really going to start a stalinist-style political regime? This is more like decorating your myspacescarabin
- I guarantee you these kids are not led by nefarious people with hidden agendas. That’s some seriously cuckoo shit. They’re just expressing themselves.scarabin
- are you saying denying your perception of reality is not some twisted way of repeating the old mantra such as "war is peace"?pr2
- “War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”pr2 - “But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.”pr2
- https://www.goodread…pr2
- every movement needs its "useful idiots." just because those kids don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't part of the equation.pr2
- It's funny how people think of themselves internally can be so triggering for others. Don't worry pr, they can't hurt you. you can stay a boy.sarahfailin
- if it's internal then don't force labels to be used by others.pr2
- I literally just told you how to opt out. Anyone can do it. Nobody’s forcing anythingscarabin
- i literally just posted a link to a masterpiece of literature that dealt with this very same problem 70 years ago.pr2
- what do you mean nobody is forcing anything... are they coming up with those labels to just talk to each other?pr2
- There’s no fucking correlation, mate. This is kids being kids on tumblr. You’re turning this into a conspiracy and it just isn’tscarabin
- If you read any Orwell's quotes and don't see exact same thing happening right in front of your eyes, than good luck watching the shadows in Plato's cave.pr2
- Okay, yuriscarabin
- ok scrabipr2
- oh my...fadein11
- Scara calling historical context cuckoo shit and not someone who wants you to refer to them as "kitten" is kinda funny.TOMMYxGUNN
- Believe me, i find calling one’s self “kitten” fucking bonkers as well. But i recognize that myself and everyone else can just opt out by calling people “they”.scarabin
- If i can opt out so easily, how in the fuck is that a conspiracy? You’re just blowing up kids finding themselves into some q-anon level fantasyscarabin
- He’s assuming all intentional change in language is nefarious intentional change, which is a fallacy and the only hook he has to hang his stalinist argumentscarabin
- He believes there’s a secret, sinister group in a dark room somewhere who came up with “let’s get kids to play pretend on tumblr” as a world domination schemescarabin
- I'm always wary of people who tell me what other individuals believe.TOMMYxGUNN
- You should be. Fortunately you’re smart and can read it for yourselfscarabin
- We have non binary intern. Very chill person and is very to haven open discussions with a gen x dude lile me.tank02
- We are raised with a certain mindset, and they are with a different mindset. 20 years of difference gives interesting talks.tank02
- It makes me not become a person lile PR2, who believes he is done evolving.tank02
- haha @ communists using "we" as pronoun. LIKE THE QUEEN OF FUCKING ENGLAND...kingsteven
- comrade is a pretty good one tho... if anything neo pronouns fall apart due to the literal interactivity in language. you cant make rules where there are none.kingsteven
- scrbi, the only proof i have is history while the only prove you have is your tiny mind. Who do you think wins this argument?pr2
- let's explore all the things we can be. the younger generations understand their potential, and they are toying with it, despite great furor.sarahfailin
- Nah.i_monk
- Nahcannonball1978
- drgs3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fi…
The Finnish language does not distinguish gender in nouns or even in personal pronouns: hän is 'he', 'she', 'they' (singular) or 'it' depending on the referent.A gender neutral language, which has always been like that, but what radical differences do we expect to see in Finland vs its neighboring 3-gender-germanic-language-speak... countries?
- i_monk0
Happy Barf Rainbows Across Every Surface Or You're Literally Genociding Me Month.