Israeli apartheid
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- moondoggie0
Oh my god, you are so contradictory. How many semtex wearing zealots have killed innocent israelis.
You express horror at one, and not the other?
- moondoggie0
Do a little reseach and have a lok at how much land has already been seceeded.
From a country that was invaded on the first day of existance.
And you complain about national self interest, what are they suppsoed to do..roll over?
- spk0
moondoggie. if israel is in fact "the only democracy" in the middle east - why dont they annex the occupied territories and give the occupants - 1 man 1 vote.? before sharon and his cronies finish their ethnic cleasing. speaking of sharon - it was that asshole who started the most recent intifada with his tirade up to temple mount. - arafat is no saint - israel is doing its best to keep a real viable leader from emerging from the palesinian populace - israel wants that clown in his pitful position of power so they can blame him for all the problmes caused by their aggressive abuse of the palestinian people.
- unknown0
"Do a little reseach and have a lok at how much land has already been seceeded."
you mean how much of palestine was stolen and then how little was given back?
- moondoggie0
Good lord prometheus!
- moondoggie0
Funny thing, the orignal that was posted actually is biased in support of Israel
- unknown0
A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all Americans who still don't get it, I now offer you the story of the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need. Don't thank me. I'm a giver.
Here we go: the Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word.
Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is really a modern invention.
Before the Israelis won the land in war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no "Palestinians" then, and the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then. As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation."
So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they are: "Other Arabs From The Same General Area Who Are In Deep Denial About Never Being Able To Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death."
I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: "Adjacent Jew-Haters."
Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing. No, they don't. They could've had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living. That's no fun.
No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course-that's where the real fun is-but mostly they want Israel. Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel-or "The Zionist Entity" as their textbooks call it-for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth, and if you've ever been around God's Earth, you know that's really saying something. It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim MidEast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.
Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals. Really? Wow, what neat news.
Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea?
Oh, that? We were just kidding.
My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not. Or marshalling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab state into the sea? Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible. Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting. No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.
Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with vital operations coming up against Iraq and others, it's in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that can't be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of supermodels who've just had their drugs taken away. However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing moral weight. We've already lost some. After September 11 our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them.
Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day) start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint. If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan. (Hey, wait a minute, that's actually not such a bad idea . . . uh, that is, what a horrible thought, yeah, horrible.)
-Dennis Miller
- moondoggie0
Thank you James. Atlast some semblence of understanding to this emotional debate.
- unfittoprint0
James, that was a long and hilarious thread.
- robotron3k0
right moondoggie i stand corrected Israel territory is aproximately: 20,770 sq km according to my nifty CIA handbook...
Question though, are Israelians related in any way to the Raelians??
smirk
- moondoggie0
from Alpa Centauri
- spk0
james dong.
if mexico was suddenly given texas - then a fence was put around texas - texans were given few if any rights then slowly pushed of the land their families had lived on for generations - and forced to live as second last citizens (or cockroaches as described by a certain now deceased israeli leader) - i suspect some shit would go down far uglier than what has been happening in israel during the last intifada.
- binaryman0
Every story has two sides. It is sad that almost all of you either see one side or the other. One would expect more from supposedly educated and creative people.
James Dong takes the "look ma, everything really is black and white!!!" cake today.
Both the Jews and Mulims in that region need some sense knocked into them before they bring the whole darn world down with them.
- unknown0
Affirmative!
- unknown0
agreed, I'm just sick and tired of our media vilifying the palestinians and turning a blind eye to the Israeli atrocities.
- toolius0
there is no way in hell James Dong is a real person.
Did you copy and paste that mess from the 'How to Hide a Holocaust' book of rules?
Did you not see the ISRAELIS on fox new the day of 911 dancing for joy at the towers crashing down? Not many people did see it. It was taken off the website and never spoken of again.
- modulate0
the scariest (speaking of the Israeli fascists) thing they are doing are flying over a bunch of ultra christian americans and preaching to them about how much they have in common.
the right wing american christians have so much power proportionally and the israeli's are smart by using their dimwitted bubke thumping nature to their advantage.
have to admit it is a simple, yet a good move.
- binaryman0
There is so much hate in this thread. I am amazed my computer hasnt blown up yet.
- robotron3k0
tru dat... just another lesson to be learned, don't be a hater!
"peace and be freaky"
-prince
- exador0
personally, i think both sides are out of their minds.
there's a great sci-fi book that has a plot, incredibly similar to the saga unfolding in the middle east..
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido…two cultures, on hellishly hot planet are descendents of great civilizations..
and the only thing greater than the art and philosophy they both produce, is their abject hatred of each other...
brilliant, and ultimately scary as hell ..
when i first finished reading it, all i could think of was the middle east, and my only thought was..
there is no hope.
they'll kill each other before they make peace..
and it is my profound wish, that they learn to get along with each other, before one side decides that genocide sounds like a perfect solution