Joe Biden of the day

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  • colin_s0

    joe biden fucking sucks and is directly or indirectly responsible for so much dogshit policy over the course of his career.

    and liberals don't care about this, because trump has done far worse things in and out of office and been just fine.

    however, that argument thus equivocates the two. that puts them on the same playing field, one where if being a hypocrite doesn't matter, why would you go with the one who lies about it?

    it's the same fucking trap the clinton people fell into, because they both want the privilege of being morally unimpeachable (which is a grotesque evolution of white supremacy) while also appearing as "open and moral and good" and in the end they just look like a bunch of idiots.

    anyway, the best thing i've seen people say so far is "go and vote and be as aware as you can of all your local races for office and the judiciary, be aware of laws being passed, and when it comes to president, do what you will."

    biden is going to be the excuse for people to go back to saying they give a shit about others.

    • Let's be honest, both options suck.dbloc
    • They both suck, but voting for Trump is shameful. You’re a bad person if you support or even accept him.nb
    • Biden might not be the president anyone particularly wants but he's a stepping stone to a better government and certainly better than trump.BaskerviIle
    • He will be scrutinized that is for sure.monospaced
    • You arguments are invalid. Biden is a human being. Trump is dogshit.tank02
    • First Hillary, now Biden, the DNC will never learn.moldero
    • joe will be the greatest president america has ever had.neverscared
    • Joe has spent his entire political career angling for the Top Job, ironic that, if he wins, his brain is so melted he won't even remember it happened.face_melter
    • At least Biden did something of value with his life. Trump has never done a thing.nb
    • Trump is an animal who should be destroyed but I'm struggling to think what Joe has done that was of value.face_melter
    • I mean, there's ICE expanding their operations, his bankruptcy law, his crime bill, refusal for Medicare For All, increased military spending...face_melter
    • u will see it he will pull the u.s.a out of hitlers ass.neverscared
    • ...and being entirely beholden to Wall St, financiers. Just off the top of my head.face_melter
    • I think people are hung up on thinking you have to agree with a presidentjtb26
    • Joe Biden isn’t my favorite candidate. In general elections (not primaries) I weigh electability and alignment. I get more political power from Biden than Trumpjtb26
    • I’m not a fucking crybaby about not getting every policy I want lime folks on the far left and far right. I’m a rational socialist.jtb26
    • i am not defending trump at all - i'm saying in the political playbook, the biden people are falling for the shit the clinton people didcolin_s
    • and that if the biden campaign continues to try and play the moral superiority card - instead of offer a vision for the future - they could very well losecolin_s
    • since biden's history is not one that has any sort of dignity attached to it, and most of his political empathy comes from a dead soncolin_s
    • You think playing the moral superiority card against trump is bad strategy? It's the one clearcut thing most agree on, Trump's lack of morals.zarkonite
    • hiding is his best strategymoldero
    • It's like Boris vs Corbyn in the UK. People voted for Boris as Corbyn just sucked.shapesalad
    • Ya... But your other option is Trump... Not much of an option....pango
    • Sanders / Ocasio are worse so hey I'll take Bidenernexbcn
    • do you cuss the waitress out if they have pepsi instead of coke? up in arms about supporting the only option to remove the worst human ever to be pres? stfuimbecile
    • i'm saying that people are getting caught up in this idea that trump is so bad he will obviously lose, and aren't being as tactical in messaging for bidencolin_s
    • and because biden's history is checkered at best - and outright terrible to those on the left - they need to be making broad, substantive gesturescolin_s
    • only you are getting caught in that rhetoric. plenty of others are continuing to share the message of get out and actually vote, which you're shitting on too.imbecile
    • Unfortunately you have to understand that the left is not the main voting block in America...and won't be until they start showing up in numbers large enough toyuekit
    • matter. Look at the primaries, they had their ideal candidate in Bernie Sanders and turnout among young people and non traditional voters was still mediocre.yuekit
    • Anyway I agree it's important not to just run on moral superiority and "Trump is bad" but I'm also not in a swing state so I'm not seeing the ads they areyuekit
    • running. Biden does have a lot of detailed policies beyond just "Trump is bad" so I assume they are highlighting these for the voters of each region.yuekit
    • If Democrats win the problem will not be that they have no policies, it will be what to tackle first given the state Trump has left the country in.yuekit
    • @yuekit - maybe? but at this point in 2016 nobody thought trump would win either. i'm just saying there's a lot of game left to be played for this shitcolin_s
    • This hasn't been decided imo and any of the 2 can still winernexbcn
    • Trump is still losing in every swing state, so he's going to have to cheat way beyond our worst expectations to pull off a win.CyBrainX
    • This whole argument is close to a false equivalency. If you're punched in the face or eviscerated with a rusty saw do you conclude that you were assaulted...CyBrainX
    • ...and the degree of injury doesn't matter?CyBrainX
    • Remember when this used to be a design blog?TOMMYxGUNN
    • Look, we don't love Biden, ok? We just LOATH Trump. Why is this equation so difficult for some?FNP14
    • Dust yourself off, become politically active and make better choices next round.FNP14

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